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Re: The erosion of the Mac experience

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Post by Shank »

what-imright wrote: post #3

Whats with these Apple complainers they never shut up? Why do they find fault in the minor details of the best computing experience ever delivered?

> Why do they find fault in the minor details of the best computing experience ever delivered?

The whole point is that the Macintosh Operating System was all about caring about details. Criticism like this comes from a place of love, not from a place of hate.

I love my Mac. I love the experience. I love using it. However, when the "dismiss" button on a notification hides itself as I hover over it, and I have to move my mouse off of the invisible control and back onto the control to fix the bug, on a regular basis, it's grating.

Why? I love my socks -- I just wish they would stop coming with holes in them. They're great socks and other than the holes I love wearing them. Other sock makers make socks that aren't as comfy but don't have holes. Why can't these just not have holes?

Re: The erosion of the Mac experience

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Post by analog31 »

Interesting generalization about a lot of mature tech businesses, borrowed from TFA (edits mine):

What the future of looks like as 's employee base ages out and that care & attention is lost forever? Fresh new hires, who’ve never known a reason to care about the , trying to rewrite key portions with unforgiving yearly timelines and shaky foundations...

Re: The erosion of the Mac experience

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Post by nkozyra »

dleslie wrote: post #6

I believe that Apple is strategically choosing to coast on their desktop software while they work to harmonize their mobile, desktop, and entertainment software stacks. Why? Because based on rumors, patents, and the decisions they've made and the actions they've taken (or not taken), it appears as though that Apple believes that in the not so distant future the concept of having a separate mobile device and a computi…

> the concept of having a separate mobile device and a computing device will be irrelevant.

Well ... yeah. People have been predicting and experimenting with this for more than a decade.

But when you do this some parts of each platform has to suffer. It's a compromise. User interfaces have to change, designs have to consolidate, performance or features take a hit.

So the challenge becomes how do you sell this? Seamlessly moving from desktop to mobile sounds nice but is it actually practical? Do we actually want it?

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Post by falcolas »

da39a3ee wrote: post #4

> Fresh new hires, who’ve never known a reason to care about the Mac, trying to rewrite key portions of the OS I'm confused. Don't Apple developers develop on MacOS machines?

You can use a platform for development without giving it a second thought or care.

All it needs to do is host an ide, compiler, and emulator.

Re: The erosion of the Mac experience

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Post by anonymouse008 »

dleslie wrote: post #6

I believe that Apple is strategically choosing to coast on their desktop software while they work to harmonize their mobile, desktop, and entertainment software stacks. Why? Because based on rumors, patents, and the decisions they've made and the actions they've taken (or not taken), it appears as though that Apple believes that in the not so distant future the concept of having a separate mobile device and a computi…

You’re missing the forest from the trees - it’s not one device it’s one user interaction layer. Drag and drop from real life to AR, to Illustrator, to printed document should follow one framework.

We’ve entered into a realm where context dictates the task for the desired computing aims. The paradigms for user interaction change if you’re on a bus, at a desk, walking in the park. A unified abstraction for how to achieve user intent may be one device, but for certain a continuous ecosystem requires one language and one API paradigm to achieve user aims. That said, there are good ways of going about it (MacCatalyst) and bad (SwiftUI) - and I say this in light of whatever VR/AR is coming.

I know a guy working on this for AR and thought he had 0 shot on earth, but seeing Apple go for SwiftUI greatly increases his chances.

Re: The erosion of the Mac experience

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Post by happyopossum »

I have been hearing this for almost 2 decades now, as long as I’ve been following the ‘community’. Meanwhile, in my real life, my parents, wife, kids, and friends, are all happier than they ever ever been with their latest MacBooks and macOS.

Things like iCloud photo syncing, universal control, and airdrop feel boring to us, but they make the computing experience feel pretty much like living in the future for them.

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