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John Carmack's new AGI company, Keen Technologies, has raised a $20M round

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Re: John Carmack's new AGI company, Keen Technologies, has raised a $20M round

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Post by bsenftner »

mushufasa wrote: post #52
Tepix wrote: post #7

I wonder if Carmacks moral compass is in order. First he sticks around at Facebook, now he endangers humanity with AGI. And i'm only half joking.

I think he very clearly has an amoral attitude towards technology development -- "you can't stop progress." He does describe his own "hacker ethic" and whatever he develops he may make more open than OpenAI. though I think he has some moral compass around what he believes people should do or not do with technology. For example, he has publicly expressed admiration for electric cars / cleantech and SpaceX's decision t…

I think there is a point to be made that if one could do the work, is offered the work, but thinks it's ethically questionable: go there and be an ethical voice.

Re: John Carmack's new AGI company, Keen Technologies, has raised a $20M round

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Post by dmoy »

jacquesm wrote: post #123
ianceicys wrote: post #28

Artificial general intelligence (AGI) — in other words, systems that could successfully perform any intellectual task that a human can. Not in my lifetime, not in this millennium. Possibly in the year 2,300. Weird way to blow $20 million.

The year 2300 is definitely in this millennium.

Only if you don't count the second dark age of 1200 years that fit between 2093 and 2094

Re: John Carmack's new AGI company, Keen Technologies, has raised a $20M round

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Post by xtracto »

LudwigNagasena wrote: post #74

That’s crazy money for a vaporware seed round, isn’t it?

Most of VCs funding seed rounds do it mainly for the Team. As long as the team has OK credentials and the idea is not a hard stop (illegal or shady stuff) most will likely provide money.

Given the John Carmack name... I can see why ANYONE would love to throw money to a new entrepreneurship idea.

Re: John Carmack's new AGI company, Keen Technologies, has raised a $20M round

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Post by SketchySeaBeast »

paxys wrote: post #131
Jack000 wrote: post #116

I'm very optimistic for near-term AGI (10 years or less). Even just a few years ago most in the field would have said that it's an "unknown unknown", we didn't have the theory or the models, there was no path forward and so it was impossible to predict. Now we have a fairly concrete idea of what a potential AGI might look like - an RL agent that uses a large transformer. The issue is that unlike supervised training y…

We will have something that we ourselves define to be AGI, sure, but then it's easy to hit any goal that way. Is that machine really intelligent? What does that word even mean? Can it think for itself? Is it sentient? Similar to AI, AGI is going to be a new industry buzzword that you can throw at anything and mean nothing.

You're making me think of the recent "Hoverboards".

Re: John Carmack's new AGI company, Keen Technologies, has raised a $20M round

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Post by dekhn »

cgrealy wrote: post #130

I don’t understand why you would want AGI. Even ignoring Terminator-esque worst case scenarios, AGI means humans are no longer the smartest entities on the planet. The idea that we can control something like that is laughable.

what if humanity's role is to create an intelligence that exceeds it and cannot be controlled? Can humans not desire to be all watched over by machines of loving grace?

More seriously, while I don't think it's a moral imperative to develop AGI, I consider it a desirable research goal in the same way we do genetic engineering - to understand more about ourselves, and possibly engineer a future with less human suffering.

Re: John Carmack's new AGI company, Keen Technologies, has raised a $20M round

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Post by lagrange77 »

paxys wrote: post #131
Jack000 wrote: post #116

I'm very optimistic for near-term AGI (10 years or less). Even just a few years ago most in the field would have said that it's an "unknown unknown", we didn't have the theory or the models, there was no path forward and so it was impossible to predict. Now we have a fairly concrete idea of what a potential AGI might look like - an RL agent that uses a large transformer. The issue is that unlike supervised training y…

We will have something that we ourselves define to be AGI, sure, but then it's easy to hit any goal that way. Is that machine really intelligent? What does that word even mean? Can it think for itself? Is it sentient? Similar to AI, AGI is going to be a new industry buzzword that you can throw at anything and mean nothing.

From the point when an AGI is capable of constructing a slightly better version of itself and has the urge to do so, everything can happen very fast.

Re: John Carmack's new AGI company, Keen Technologies, has raised a $20M round

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Post by ZiiS »

nomel wrote: post #106
echelon wrote: post #19

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Artificial General Intelligence. Machines as smart and capable of thought as we are and eventually smarter.

> Machines as smart and capable of thought as we are and eventually smarter. This is perhaps an end goal of AGI, but not a definition of AGI. A relatively dumb AGI is how it will start, but it will still be an AGI.

we hope

Re: John Carmack's new AGI company, Keen Technologies, has raised a $20M round

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Post by jackblemming »

xen2xen1 wrote: post #78
cgrealy wrote: post #72

Earlier quoted context omitted.

There is a story in “Masters of Doom” about Carmack getting rid of his cat because “she was having a net negative effect on my life”. That’s cold.

But then again, it's a cat.

Hopefully the AI Carmack creates doesn’t think the same of you ;)
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