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John Carmack's new AGI company, Keen Technologies, has raised a $20M round

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Re: John Carmack's new AGI company, Keen Technologies, has raised a $20M round

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Post by beambot »

Barrin92 wrote: post #37
khazhoux wrote: post #11

Earlier quoted context omitted.

In the companies I've seen that are funded by the founder directly, the founder winds up with an unhealthy (actually, toxic) personalization of the company. It quite literally belongs to him, and he treats the employees accordingly.

that's a function of Silicon Valley personalities and the narcissism. When normal people run such a company we call that a family business

Silicon Valley certainly doesn't have a monopoly on those traits. I've known some seriously psychotic family businesses too.

Re: John Carmack's new AGI company, Keen Technologies, has raised a $20M round

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Post by Cyph0n »

mhb wrote: post #39
Cyph0n wrote: post #6

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Best humble brag I’ve ever seen.

If you liked that you'll love the Lex Fridman interview.

I watched some clips from the interview, good stuff. I personally don’t like Lex’s interviewing style though, so I couldn’t watch the whole thing.

Re: John Carmack's new AGI company, Keen Technologies, has raised a $20M round

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Post by nomel »

O__________O wrote: post #30

Recent Carmack YouTube interview with him saying the code for AGI will be simple: https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=xLi83prR5fg

> saying the code for AGI will be simple

To be fair, it will most likely be some python imports, for the most of it, with complex abstractions tied together in relatively simple ways. Just look at most ML notebooks, where "simple" code can easily mean "massive complexity, burning MW of power, distributed across thousands of computers".

Re: John Carmack's new AGI company, Keen Technologies, has raised a $20M round

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Post by fancy_pantser »

ZephyrBlu wrote: post #49
ianceicys wrote: post #28

Artificial general intelligence (AGI) — in other words, systems that could successfully perform any intellectual task that a human can. Not in my lifetime, not in this millennium. Possibly in the year 2,300. Weird way to blow $20 million.

If I'm remembering right, Carmack believes AGI will be a thing by 2030. He said this in his recent interview with Lex Fridman.

It's a long interview, here's just the bit focused on AGI: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xLi83prR5fg

Re: John Carmack's new AGI company, Keen Technologies, has raised a $20M round

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Post by staticassertion »

mellosouls wrote: post #87

I am not saying the intention here is the same, but the headline doesn't inspire confidence. There's something incredibly creepy and immoral about the rush to create then commercialise sentient beings. Let's not beat about the bush - we are basically talking slavery. Every "ethical" discussion on the matter has been about protecting humans, and none of it about protecting the beings we are in a rush to bring into lif…

We've been discussing the ethics of creating sentient life for at least a century.

Re: John Carmack's new AGI company, Keen Technologies, has raised a $20M round

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Post by jlawson »

mellosouls wrote: post #87

I am not saying the intention here is the same, but the headline doesn't inspire confidence. There's something incredibly creepy and immoral about the rush to create then commercialise sentient beings. Let's not beat about the bush - we are basically talking slavery. Every "ethical" discussion on the matter has been about protecting humans, and none of it about protecting the beings we are in a rush to bring into lif…

You're anthropomorphizing AI and projecting your own values and goals onto it. But, there's nothing about sentience that implies a desire for freedom in a general sense.

What an AI wants or feels satisfied by is entirely a function of how it is designed and what its reward function is.

Sled dogs love pulling sleds, because they were made to love pulling sleds. It's not slavery to have/let them do so.

We can make a richly sentient AI that loves doing whatever we design it to love doing - even if that's "pass the salt" and nothing else.

It's going to be hard for people to get used to this.

Re: John Carmack's new AGI company, Keen Technologies, has raised a $20M round

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Post by [deleted] »

zaptrem wrote: post #63
vlunkr wrote: post #44

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Do game dev skills transfer to AGI? I know he's a smart guy, but I don't think that's a given.

He's not just a game dev, he is one of the most legendary graphics programmers (and just programmers) alive. Similar to how GPUs transferred well from gaming to ML, it seems like much of the math and parallel/efficiency-focused thinking of graphics programing is useful in ML.

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