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John Carmack's new AGI company, Keen Technologies, has raised a $20M round

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Re: John Carmack's new AGI company, Keen Technologies, has raised a $20M round

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Post by ggm »

ianceicys wrote: post #28

Artificial general intelligence (AGI) — in other words, systems that could successfully perform any intellectual task that a human can. Not in my lifetime, not in this millennium. Possibly in the year 2,300. Weird way to blow $20 million.

He'll make it back on small increments with high value. If he can shave 30% LOC on a vision system for small BoM in some context like self driving cars, 10x stake is coming his way.

Basically, they could completely fail to advance AGI (and I think this is what will happen btw, like you) and make gigabucks.

Re: John Carmack's new AGI company, Keen Technologies, has raised a $20M round

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Post by hervature »

ianceicys wrote: post #28

Artificial general intelligence (AGI) — in other words, systems that could successfully perform any intellectual task that a human can. Not in my lifetime, not in this millennium. Possibly in the year 2,300. Weird way to blow $20 million.

2,300 is in this millennium?

Re: John Carmack's new AGI company, Keen Technologies, has raised a $20M round

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Post by omg_stoppit »

blibble wrote: post #58
willio58 wrote: post #53

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It’s not blowing 20 million if it results in meaningful progress in this area. We have something like 2700 billionaires on this planet. This isn’t even a drop in the bucket for someone like that interested in furthering this research. AGI could quite literally shift any job to automation. This is human-experience changing stuff.

> This is human-experience changing stuff. that's one way of putting it it will remove the need for the vast majority of the population, which will end extremely badly

And as societies progress, they must either realize why basic necessities like Universal Basic Income exist, or just allow for large swathes of their population to die off.

Re: John Carmack's new AGI company, Keen Technologies, has raised a $20M round

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Post by jtwaleson »

makeee wrote: post #34
ianceicys wrote: post #28

Artificial general intelligence (AGI) — in other words, systems that could successfully perform any intellectual task that a human can. Not in my lifetime, not in this millennium. Possibly in the year 2,300. Weird way to blow $20 million.

Doesn't imply any task, just a wide variety of tasks. 10 years at most.

My takeaway from the Lex Fridman interview is of someone that’s machine-like in his approach. AGI suddenly seemed simpler and within reach. Skipping consciousness and qualia. It’s inhumane, but machine-like and effective. Curious what will become of it.

Re: John Carmack's new AGI company, Keen Technologies, has raised a $20M round

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Post by ge96 »

blibble wrote: post #58
willio58 wrote: post #53

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It’s not blowing 20 million if it results in meaningful progress in this area. We have something like 2700 billionaires on this planet. This isn’t even a drop in the bucket for someone like that interested in furthering this research. AGI could quite literally shift any job to automation. This is human-experience changing stuff.

> This is human-experience changing stuff. that's one way of putting it it will remove the need for the vast majority of the population, which will end extremely badly

I wonder about this, if you had great/true automation, free energy from the sun, is there any need to do anything. As in value of money.

Re: John Carmack's new AGI company, Keen Technologies, has raised a $20M round

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Post by mellosouls »

I am not saying the intention here is the same, but the headline doesn't inspire confidence.

There's something incredibly creepy and immoral about the rush to create then commercialise sentient beings.

Let's not beat about the bush - we are basically talking slavery.

Every "ethical" discussion on the matter has been about protecting humans, and none of it about protecting the beings we are in a rush to bring into life and use.

It's repugnant.

Re: John Carmack's new AGI company, Keen Technologies, has raised a $20M round

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Post by yeellow »

arkitaip wrote: post #55
makeee wrote: post #34

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Doesn't imply any task, just a wide variety of tasks. 10 years at most.

By definition it has to be any task otherwise it wouldn't be general. What tasks wouldn't an AGI be able to perform and still be an AGI?

For each human being having GI there are many tasks that person won't be able to perform. For example proving math theorems, doing research in physics, writing a poem, etc. Specyfic AGI could have its limitations as well.

Re: John Carmack's new AGI company, Keen Technologies, has raised a $20M round

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Post by ianceicys »

dymk wrote: post #61
ianceicys wrote: post #51

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Then it's NOT generalized. ANY means ANY.

Can you do any task asked of you, which could be asked of a human being? ANY task.

I may not be able to ANY task sufficiently well (ex Calculus, Poetry, Emotion), but by the very definition of being a Human I can do *any* Human task.
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