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I _think_ OP is referring to the fact that most sites are forced into writing really long form posts because the format is "encouraged" by Google. I don't know the ins and outs but my understanding is that if you don't follow the Google format then you recipe drops way down in Google search results.
No, they're forced into long form posts because recipes cannot be copyrighted . By adding a story you get something with copy rights.
More content by people, for people in Search
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Re: More content by people, for people in Search
#242The more accurate title would be "Less content by robots". Unfortunately, what is not mentioned in the article is that sole existence of these content-farms is enabled by Adsense. So basically they are in the chicken and egg problem, and the only way to really solve it is to acknowledge that ad-based business models lead to detoriation of content on the web, get rid of Adsense (probably miniscule revenue contribution…
You basically have to act as a mind-reading translator to understand what they actually did.
Re: More content by people, for people in Search
#243For medical advice I would see more serious articles/blog posts in search results and fewer listicles. For meal recipes I would just like to see the recipe and not a blog post with dozens of ads. For programming questions I don't want to see the sites that just scrape and repackage stackoverflow questions; for a company run by software developers they have to know about this problem lol.
It's funny, I've had almost embarrassing success building a trivial recipe filter for my search engine. The code itself is comically simple[1], I just count how many recipe-words I find (from a manual dictionary), and then add a small penalty for excessively lengthy texts. Very much a soviet space pencil approach. It's hard to assess recall, but the precision seems to be in the 80%+ range. Check it: https://search.ma…
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I think it's going to require a social rating system. Which is why people append "reddit" to searches these days.
It’s safe to assume that a social ranking system covering the whole web will be gamed.
Can you create a fake account with a verified credit card number, verified phone number, passport, drivers license, account history consistent with human usage, Google One subscription, etc.? You probably can, but doing it at-scale is going to be quite costly.
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Encourages people to make long rambling pages which don’t get to the point? Ever seen YouTube, it’s exactly the same. 10-11+ min videos saying almost nothing because it’s the most lucrative length. The internet of today is just everyone gaming everything for a dollar.
At least Youtube has a timeline (with sometimes even chapters) that let you jump ahead. The thumbnails are also a good indication on what type of content you can expect from a video.
Re: More content by people, for people in Search
#246>Better ranking of original, quality content Hah. Just another day, someone sent me this link[1] which took images and text from my page[2] for the Google query "linux check disk space". Here is the thing my page doesn't even appear on Google. The ripped page points to the source[2] and has a link back to the original images. These scammers know how to game Google with their AI-driven sites, and they adopt it faster…
cnr.it is a domain which belongs to the Italian Research Council, and that subdomain seems to be a blog by the Institute of Microelectronics and Microsystems. These are not scammers, it's probably an amateur researcher which published that information in a blog which is usually read by no-one. Probably it wasn't even meant to be public. But because of the prestige of the domain, it becomes first in relevant searches.…
Ah, but this is the new method of SEO trickery and credential scamming. Publishing a 'guest post' on a high-ranking blog subdomain of a trusted instititution. There was a story of someone doing this on Harvard University's blogs, which I can't find right now.
But I found something even better. An actual UpWork posting promising to publish your crap on Chapman.edu's university blog:
https://www.upwork.com/services/product/5-high-da-dofollow-g...
Re: More content by people, for people in Search
#247Good. I'm getting sick of adding -2022 and -best to my searches. The results are a wasteland...
Re: More content by people, for people in Search
#248Just wait until cheap to write GPT3 articles learn SEO techniques inherently and bombard the internet suppressing human writers in the spam ocean. At https://aquila.network we’re always thinking of this scenario.
Re: More content by people, for people in Search
#249But until people pay for that search capability directly, the economic incentives will not align.
And there is the ever present temptation of accepting money from advertisers. This is potentially lucrative. Will consumers ever pay enough directly to offset seller interests to sway search results? I doubt it under the current regulatory framework.
We need changes.
Some people (policy people and economists mostly) know about Ronald Coase. One of his key points is we can rebalance who has the upper hand at the beginning of a market (initial conditions) and still have economic efficiency.
Coase's classic analysis compares two hypothetical worlds. In one world, smoking is legal and non-smokers have to compensate smokers in order to have a smoke free experience. In the other world the opposite is true. Both worlds can be completely economically efficient (defined as the equilibrium where there are no additional exchanges that make all parties better off). The difference between the worlds is purely distributional -- who gets to have more money.
Distributional questions have a considerable ethical component. Like most people, I prefer the second over the first.
Regulation could also similarly apply to search engines. We could tilt the balance in favor of consumers instead of sellers (in the case of public companies, this means investors).
What am I proposing? Simply put: more discussion about such options.
I will not try specify the best legislation for all situations in this already long comment. This does not mean no significant improvements are possible nor feasible. I simply do not want to get mired in debate over only one policy option.
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About me: I listen to good libertarian style arguments as long as they are realistic about the standard economic model's limitations and failure modes: externalities, market power, imperfect information, nonrational consumers, and so on. / I lean liberal, so I care about transition costs too. Rapid change is hard because people have limited geographic mobility, especially in the short run. I also care about observable, measurable opportunities more than only hypothetical talk about options.
Re: More content by people, for people in Search
#250>Better ranking of original, quality content Hah. Just another day, someone sent me this link[1] which took images and text from my page[2] for the Google query "linux check disk space". Here is the thing my page doesn't even appear on Google. The ripped page points to the source[2] and has a link back to the original images. These scammers know how to game Google with their AI-driven sites, and they adopt it faster…
DMCA notices are unpopular with the crowd here, but when your content is plagiarized and other people are profiting off of your work, I'd recommend the following workflow: * Use Copyscape and perform automated plagiarized content detection. * Automate the sending of DMCA notices to Google and the website host (using captcha solving services, if necessary).