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Re: Ask HN: Is there a spiritual successor to del.icio.us?

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Post by heavyset_go »

tga wrote: post #45
Kovah wrote: post #30

If you would like to keep all your data private, self hosting is a good option. - LinkAce ( https://www.linkace.org ) - Linkding ( https://github.com/sissbruecker/linkding ) - Wallabag ( https://github.com/wallabag/wallabag ) - Buku ( https://github.com/jarun/Buku ) - Linkwarden ( https://github.com/Daniel31x13/link-warden )

My favourite self hosted option so far because it's fairly minimal but does offline archiving: - Shiori ( https://github.com/go-shiori/shiori )

Been using this for years, and it works well for me.

Re: Ask HN: Is there a spiritual successor to del.icio.us?

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Post by jraph »

pacifika wrote: post #131
thesuitonym wrote: post #130

Earlier quoted context omitted.

How do online services solve link rot?

As a service user by archiving a copy of the page. Or via internet archive

Internet archive is possible with regular bookmarks too, using extensions like web-archives, allowing you access the archived version in a click.

https://github.com/dessant/web-archives

Re: Ask HN: Is there a spiritual successor to del.icio.us?

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Post by derbOac »

AlchemistCamp wrote: post #142
derbOac wrote: post #115

Earlier quoted context omitted.

FWIW, this sort of thing (Delicious-like) always struck me as a good use case for decentralization.

How would the popular page work, then (either globally or per tag)? That was one of the biggest things I got out of Delicious… basically Reddit without the comments.

That's a good question. I'm not sure I have a good answer. My guess is it would maybe vary a bit from user to user?

Re: Ask HN: Is there a spiritual successor to del.icio.us?

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Post by atombender »

RockstarSprain wrote: post #148
atombender wrote: post #145

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Raindrop is superb. One of my favorite "tiny apps". It just works. One of its nicest features is that it can function as a mini-browser. For example, let's say you're working on a project where you need to have a lot of different sites open for documentation, guides, references and so on. Instead of opening them as tabs in a browser, you can bookmark them in Raindrop and then use Raindrop as the browser.

I am curious how you do that exactly, could you please elaborate?

I'm referring to the native app, which is a browser, albeit a limited one. You can have the bookmarks in the left side and the browser view on the right side.

Re: Ask HN: Is there a spiritual successor to del.icio.us?

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Post by djhaskin987 »

hammyhavoc wrote: post #158
djhaskin987 wrote: post #102

This is just sort of how the internet is going right now. Global, free services like that are starting to make less money. Facebook is circling the drain, Twitter is in hot water. Going decentralized is sort of getting more popular. Companies are focused more on profitability than growth right now, so there's little incentive to grow these platforms and more incentive to ruin them in the hopes of making money. I find…

Do you really believe Facebook is circling the drain? Still quite literally 1.97bn daily active users, and they made $28.82bn per the most recent quarterly report. I dislike Facebook as much as the next person, but this is just straight up disinformation.

For the curious, yes, I do think so. Sure, it's big; doesn't mean it's not getting smaller. I also think that it will continue to get smaller. I think its heyday is past.

Re: Ask HN: Is there a spiritual successor to del.icio.us?

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Post by xtracto »

hammyhavoc wrote: post #157
xtracto wrote: post #155

This could be an interesting use case for IPFS and maybe blockchain. I don't know how many bookmarks I have lost in dying services.

Why blockchain? Why not an open export standard that you backup regularly either manually or via an API to a third-party cloud storage provider? Why does it need to live in the cloud? Why not your own server or local device? There isn't one valid usage scenario for blockchain that actually makes sense versus existing solutions.

My though was :

1. Save my bookmark in the blockchain via an ID (hash maybe) that is stored in a "bookmarks" smart contract 2. Use said ID to identify the bookmark in an IPFS file containing the whole bookmark data.

That way, the bookmark will live perpetually in the blockchain, and there are incentives for third unknown (to me) third parties to maintain the blockchain and its data. I still have to either pay Piñata or have my file pinned in IPFS.

- Why not an open export standard that you backup regularly either manually or via an API to a third-party cloud storage provider?

Right, because all those cases require me to "regularly" do something manually

- Why does it need to live in the cloud? Why not your own server or local device?

Because I want to be able to access it from multiple locations? And I don't want to risk losing them again if my local server breaks or whatnot... I also don't want to maintain a local server.

- There isn't one valid usage scenario for blockchain that actually makes sense versus existing solutions.

I am OK if you do not find it useful. I am sorry my proposal caused so much pain to you. I can sense in your angry reply that you got frustrated by my comment. For that I apologize. I'll keep thinking of interesting use cases for the Blockchain, hopefully that doesn't give you headaches :). All the best!

Re: Ask HN: Is there a spiritual successor to del.icio.us?

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Post by hammyhavoc »

xtracto wrote: post #167
hammyhavoc wrote: post #157

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Why blockchain? Why not an open export standard that you backup regularly either manually or via an API to a third-party cloud storage provider? Why does it need to live in the cloud? Why not your own server or local device? There isn't one valid usage scenario for blockchain that actually makes sense versus existing solutions.

My though was : 1. Save my bookmark in the blockchain via an ID (hash maybe) that is stored in a "bookmarks" smart contract 2. Use said ID to identify the bookmark in an IPFS file containing the whole bookmark data. That way, the bookmark will live perpetually in the blockchain, and there are incentives for third unknown (to me) third parties to maintain the blockchain and its data. I still have to either pay Piñata…

There's absolutely no reason why backing up would need to be manual if you utilized a third-party cloud storage API. Perfect example: you can sync Broken Sword 2 save files between platforms via Dropbox, automatically, even on iOS. If it can happen for a game, why not a bookmarks system? But to be honest, why not just sync via a browser extension? Plenty of browser extensions already use Mozilla/Firefox or Google accounts to sync their storage.

I live in the UK, I've got a lot more to be angry about than an HN comment, and if I'm in pain, it's because I've got Ehlers-Danlos syndrome.

FYI, blockchain is a terrible idea for bookmarks because it is immutable. If someone does figure out decrypting it, that's a lot of potentially very compromising information in the public domain, especially on bookmarks that include your username and additional info in their title or description.

Re: Ask HN: Is there a spiritual successor to del.icio.us?

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Post by 9935c101ab17a66 »

dcow wrote: post #12
9935c101ab17a66 wrote: post #8

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I second raindrop. It’s not quite perfect, but it’s really good, very affordable, and new features are released regularly.

Off-topic question-observation: I've been wondering lately why "new features are released regularly" is generally considered a boon when talking about software and specifically in a product that serves a relatively simple and clear-cut need like a bookmark stash. My TV does one job: it shows pictures really fast on a grid of pixels. Sure it's nice that, hardware permitting, support can be added for new media layer vi…

Since I started using Raindrop, the developer has added features like permanent snapshots of pages you save, the ability to highlight things on webpages, automatic daily backups, tag autocompletion, and has made significant improvements to the Safari extension and iOS app. I find a lot of the new features useful, as I'm sure most users do. If I wanted a simple bookmarking service, I would use one (or more likely make my own).

> a product that serves a relatively simple and clear-cut need like a bookmark stash

By the same reductionist logic, you could argue that people don't need a bookmarking service at all, they can just save bookmarks in a text file. Simple, clear-cut. No fuss.

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