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Re: Ask HN: Where do you find the interesting jobs?

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That's about as vague as one can get. What exactly does "interesting" mean to you?

You could work for a police department doing tech work for them. You could work at a sewer district helping them out with calculating flows on computers or whatever. You could work at a hospital doing some kind of tech thing. You could move to Alaska and work for their State Parks calculating the movement of tagged bears. You could go to a university health school and see if develop measuring programs, like maybe some professor wants to measure and weigh poop for some reason, you could create a poop measuring app.

I don't know, man. What is interesting to you? How would any one know?

The utter reality is there is no such thing as a interesting job. That's the long and short of it. Almost any job, generally speaking, is interesting for the first year or two. Then it is just a drudge job, with the same people, having the same conversations day after day, doing the same thing. No matter what it is, not just technology. Accounting, janitorial work, truck driver, lumberjack....it all gets boring, if you're that type of person.

Me...I usually like every job. I worked at a factory job that consisted of taking a stack of 100 cups and putting them into a box - about 12 stacks in a box. I did that every day, I was a machine, doing the same exact movements all day. I really dug it, it was so zen. Hypnotized me for 12 hours (I worked 12 hour days - 3 days on, 2 off, 4 on...that kind of deal). I love working retail, which I know people hate, but I love it. I loved working at McDonalds for my first job ever. That was the best job I ever had. I liked working as a programmer. I liked pretty much everything.

It kind of reminds me of a story. A man was driving down the road from one town to another, was moving to the second town. He was driving and saw a farmer working in the field on his fence, so he stopped and asked the farmer what were the next town's people like as he was moving there. The farmer asked him what the last town's people were like, and the man said that they were horrible. The farmer said that the next town's people were horrible, too.

Later that day, it so happened that another* man was driving down that same road and stopped to talk to the same exact farmer. The man asked the farmer what were the next town's people like as he was moving there. The farmer asked him what the last town's people were like, and the man said that they were great people. The farmer said that the next town's people were great people, too.

So...the moral of the story is that all jobs are great, or all jobs are boring. Just depends on you.

Re: Ask HN: Where do you find the interesting jobs?

#246
try embedded development, preferably a company in consumer market that makes a product every two or so years

i worked in audio, hifi streamers, synth keyboards, etc, you get HW to play with and these companies can be so small you get to do different things once in a while

Re: Ask HN: Where do you find the interesting jobs?

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No, it isn't common. As an engineer you know it doesn't matter if you're shown some code (what are you going to do? memorize it?) and signing an NDA should be a thing anyway if they are concerned about secrets, so what's the worry? But, if you have any real experience in the industry (rather than making up fake advice which sounds good on the surface) you'll know that few companies will show their code, because there…

I can also argue that is is almost impossible to show code to you for very simple reason: showing couple of files won't make any difference for you anyway and you can't just transfer your codebase to a person. The only thing you can do is to sit candidate to a laptop with the codebase for couple of hours, but I doubt anyone will go that far.

I'd argue that this will absolutely help filter out abysmal codebases made by people who have no idea how to code. I've seen companies like that, I've seen people who don't know how to format code, how to write proper function names in English, hell, I've seen people making Polish comments in an English codebase with grammar errors in their native language. But I agree with other comments, doubt anyone would actually show you code during an interview due to legal reasons.

Re: Ask HN: Where do you find the interesting jobs?

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That part sounds like "Don't be perceived as a cost-center," but I think most big-lumbering-org departments have figured out how to plead their case. That's a lot harder to do with something like teaching, where there's a large supply of candidates and everyone agrees the job is socially valuable, but confounding factors make it very hard to measure any individual's contribution.

Is there a large supply of teachers? My impression is that lots of countries have a teacher shortage. And that's partly because society doesn't value teachers as much as it should. Over a century ago, teachers were still considered among the important people of the town (together with the mayor and the local notary), and commanded some respect. These days they're often seen as glorified babysitters despite having man…

> And that's partly because society doesn't value teachers as much as it should.

Speaking from Australia, I'd probably command enormous respect if I taught some kid programming. Compared to the median wage I'd be roughly doubling their earning power & I could get them a good desk job if they are smart-ish and try hard.

However, I'm legally barred from becoming a "teacher" because I don't have a masters degree in education.

This is probably the heart of why they don't command respect like they used to - it used to be that people worthy of respect became teachers. Now people worthy of respect become some other profession and aren't allowed to teach their high-value skills without jumping through hoops.

Re: Ask HN: Where do you find the interesting jobs?

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Sometimes you can get lucky and land an interesting job, but I think getting to do interesting work takes time (and luck). An anecdote from my past as an illustration: When I started my job at [FAANG] I was assigned a project. It was not mind-numbing, but not sexy either -- modernize the infrastructure while not messing up the site. Being new, I gave it my all and was rewarded a couple of years later by having the op…

Honestly, Facebook has tried to hire me like 3 times now and every time I got a completed offer at a different job by the time they finished organising their 8-step interview process so I never finished it. FAANG might be interesting but their interview processes kill it for me. I have no idea how people find the time to do homework for it + are willing to spend months in this lengthy interview pipeline. (Also there…

Big part of that then is testing your willingness to servitude.

Re: Ask HN: Where do you find the interesting jobs?

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> Everything is crypto "web 3" bubble, fintech, or recruiters being very vague about "unicorn" startups Everything? No, you're looking in the shiny techy places. Counterintuitively, interesting tech jobs are found in boring, established sectors. Get on the boring, common sites like LinkedIn and Indeed. Consider healthcare, automotive (not Tesla, but Ford), or even higher ed. If you want interesting, and not just a bi…

My mileage varies heavily - I'm using LinkedIn as a main source for open positions, and it's 90% what OP describes. There are positions listed by, let's say, a local insurance company, but they are, as you say, boring - so they just post the job offer and wait for candidates. Recruiters post a job, then post that same job with 5 other titles, then repost all of these twice per week to bump them up in the candidates'…

They also post the same position for each country they are hiring. Sick.
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