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Last time I installed it Manjaro’s value proposition was an easy path to getting Nvidia’s nonfree drivers working without hours of fussing about. Does some other distro fit that need?
This isn't something Manjaro adds.
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> when a rolling release breaks your computer Which never happens, even on Arch, where packages aren't held back for 2 weeks like on Manjaro. Both Arch and Manjaro have been way more stable for me than Ubuntu ever was, and I've used them for like 4 years now. It's counterintuivie, but newer packages seem to work better than older packages. My pet theory for this is that the devs spend most of their attention with the…
> Which never happens, It has happened to me, an update broke my sound card and I didn't know until I tried to use it at a time that was extremely inconvenient to me. > Submit a bug for a DE, and they might tell you to install the newest version to replicate it there (yet you're on Ubuntu...) Known bugs have known work arounds, I can deal with that. What I can't deal with is surprise new bugs in cutting edge software…
That can happen updating infrequently too, and can be harder to work out the cause.
I have a theory that the only reason Manjaro is popular is that for the longest time, Arch did not have an installer. Do not underestimate the power of making things easier for your users.
I found this comment surprising. I believed this was one of those basic facts of life for over two or three decades now. I mean, look at the history of Linux distros. All of the dominant Linux distros of the time had a single trait: they made things easier for users. Mandrake Linux was the single most user-friendly Linux of its day, because installing was trivial and required little to no config to get up and running. Knoppix became hugely popular because users could just burn a CD and have a fully functional Linux distro up and running without installing anything. Ubuntu became hugely popular because it picked up Debian's solid infrastructure and gave it a user-friendly makeover.
In fact, is there any relevant Linux distro around whose killer feature was not making things easier for its target audience?
In the past there was a vocal minority of Linux users who advocated in favour of high barriers to entry and all-around user-unfriendliness, but let's not be mistaken: what they actually advocated for was ladder-pulling and gatekeeping.
I thought HN people love Manjaro. I installed Manjaro because it was the majority of HN recommended
Last time I installed it Manjaro’s value proposition was an easy path to getting Nvidia’s nonfree drivers working without hours of fussing about. Does some other distro fit that need?
It seems that Garuda that's mentioned in this article does that.
I struggled quite a bit with Arch. I found the documentation quite confusing and it seemed incomplete, and getting support was quite difficult. Manjaro provided a very easy way to try Arch. If the process to install Arch had been easier, I wouldn't have bothered even looking for any derivatives of it.
I’m having trouble relating to this post. General linux questions on a search engine end up on the Arch Linux wiki quite often. Really though, what Linux distro has better documentation than Arch?
As someone who used Manjaro for ~4 years, Manjaro used to be a perfect system. I never borked my system in all those time. It had strong defaults and it taught me well that I am using Arch for the last 3ish years without issues. I will be grateful for that I guess. While I don't know the technical side of things now , Manjaro was great as a product. It was far more stable than Ubuntu which was unstable and had older…
My finger wasn't very on the pulse of the Manjaro community, but my experience with the OS and with the (new) forum didn't seem diminished after the "companyfication".
I, too, have switched to Arch, 95% because I felt ready to (as someone else wrote, "Manjaro was my bridge to Arch across the chasm from Ubuntu") and wanted to try it, 5% because I'd rather trust a mysterious cabal of devs than a company with a bottom line that can get bought out or whatever.
I don't have trouble believing you though; they say $$$ is the root of all evil for a reason.
Fwiw, I've used a combination of Arch, endeavor, and manjaro over the course of ~15 years. I've been aware of the issues that the author listed for some time now, and tbh, I don't really care, I still use and enjoy manjaro for the convenience.
I struggled quite a bit with Arch. I found the documentation quite confusing and it seemed incomplete, and getting support was quite difficult. Manjaro provided a very easy way to try Arch. If the process to install Arch had been easier, I wouldn't have bothered even looking for any derivatives of it.
Arch's documentation is incomplete? Arch has to have the most comprehensive documentation of all the distros. Even when I'm troubleshooting other distros I'll check the Arch wiki first!
I struggled quite a bit with Arch. I found the documentation quite confusing and it seemed incomplete, and getting support was quite difficult. Manjaro provided a very easy way to try Arch. If the process to install Arch had been easier, I wouldn't have bothered even looking for any derivatives of it.
I’m having trouble relating to this post. General linux questions on a search engine end up on the Arch Linux wiki quite often. Really though, what Linux distro has better documentation than Arch?