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Vietnam to make Apple Watch and MacBook

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Re: Vietnam to make Apple Watch and MacBook

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Step by step. Hard lesson learned from dependency on Russia's oil and gas will hopefully open people's eyes - you can't depend on the hostile regime, even if it occasionally pretends to be a nice guy.

So how is China hostile?

Just ask the Taiwanese, Uyghurs and Tibetan people. To name a few.

Re: Vietnam to make Apple Watch and MacBook

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Designing their own chips in-house wasn't "their expertise" either, a few years ago. You won't expand into other areas unless you at least make it a priority and try.

Getting into semiconductors is probably substantially more complicated. Only a handful of companies are able to do it well and they have bene at it for decades.

Apple does have more resources to throw at this problem than anyone.

Considering that their entire product line collapses without semiconductors, it wouldn’t be a poor investment.

Re: Vietnam to make Apple Watch and MacBook

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They've already pulled this on Samsung but it has nowhere to go. Where else can it find tens of millions of young workers?

SE Asia has plenty.

SE Asian workers, outside of Phillippines, are too expensive for large scale, low end manufacturing. Malaysia and Thailand are already middle income countries and Indonesia is getting there as well.

Re: Vietnam to make Apple Watch and MacBook

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post #442

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Step by step. Hard lesson learned from dependency on Russia's oil and gas will hopefully open people's eyes - you can't depend on the hostile regime, even if it occasionally pretends to be a nice guy.

So how is China hostile?

The answer to that question could fill several books. Among more recent events are the human rights violations, the increasing saber-rattling about Taiwan, the increasing joint military exercises with Russia, and the mass addition of malware/spyware to chips meant for foreign markets.

Rather than take my word for it, though, I encourage you to do some research on your own - preferably not entirely through Internet sources. In particular, the current issue of the World Affairs journal (volume 185, issue 3) has several relevant articles.

Re: Vietnam to make Apple Watch and MacBook

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How is no one mentioning that China is threatening Taiwan. If the US ends up in a war with China, suddenly most Apple products would have serious operations problems if not being shut off completely. Cheap labor isn't a bad reason, but this is also a hedge against the heating politics between the West and both Russia and China.

If the US and China end up going to war, Apple’s products would be the last of my worries.

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All the recent chinese military exercises and direct threats from chinese news outlets and military leaders are not .. threatening ?

China will just turn around and say that they can’t possibly threaten their own province. That’s pretty much their justification.

Re: Vietnam to make Apple Watch and MacBook

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Good for Vietnam. I visited the country in 2016 and fell in love with it, going back two more times. I’ve never seen a more hardworking, yet friendly people. They deserve all the success in the world.

Slightly off topic but a youtube "DIY man built his own yacht with scrap materials in just 90 days" https://interestingengineering.com/video/yacht-scrap-materia...

was cool and reminded me of the guys who fixed my scooter in Vietnam for about 30p a time.

Re: Vietnam to make Apple Watch and MacBook

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At some point we should outsource our armies and perhaps even governments. If a real war starts we can use the services industry, unless we outsource that too. We’ll send the lawyers and software engineers in, and power our cardboard tanks with wood and steam. I was hoping the pandemic and the war in europe would teach us that electronics, particularly high end, should be relocated to allied countries at the very lea…

International trade dependency is one of the biggest deterrents to war and often helps countries become allies.

People are very happy to torpedo economic benefits for national pride and sovereignty.

China has been India’s largest trading partner for many years. Yet when there was a recent border dispute, everyone was willing to forego all economic ties in favor of a conflict.

Re: Vietnam to make Apple Watch and MacBook

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I don't really see what the problem is with offshoring. If other people elsewhere want to work for cheaper, then it's fair competition. It's not like protectionism would work long term anyways. And in this particular case, Vietnam is more aligned with the US than China, geopolitically, so this makes a lot of sense.

2 words: national security. as the world's police and adult, we have to be self sufficient in food, tech, defense, resources, etc

> As the world’s adult

Led by an octogenarian who replaced a septuagenarian man-child.

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