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Vietnam to make Apple Watch and MacBook

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Re: Vietnam to make Apple Watch and MacBook

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Post by sharikous »

actionfromafar wrote: post #421
88840-8855 wrote: post #407

Earlier quoted context omitted.

this is rather to limit economic exposure to a war that the US is planning. as now the US war against Russia in the proxy war in Ukraine, Europe and especially Germany will be the main victim. The US foreign politics is the main evil in the world and the EU is still following the Americans. It is incredible. We must get rid of all American influence in Europe, ban US tech, ban US military, get rid of the US propagand…

Here I thought the Ukraine was the main victim and Russia the perpetrator.

Look into it. It's definitely not a black and white aggression war. It definitely has elements of a proxy war that conveniently weakens both Russia and Europe

Re: Vietnam to make Apple Watch and MacBook

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Post by trasz »

piokoch wrote: post #423
sandstrom wrote: post #408

Still a Chinese manufacturer… (Luxshare Precision Industry) If it had been a non-chinese company, it would have been a great move. Western companies will need to reduce their reliance on China in their supply chains.

Step by step. Hard lesson learned from dependency on Russia's oil and gas will hopefully open people's eyes - you can't depend on the hostile regime, even if it occasionally pretends to be a nice guy.

So how is China hostile?

Re: Vietnam to make Apple Watch and MacBook

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Post by eunos »

nsonha wrote: post #277
koheripbal wrote: post #38

Earlier quoted context omitted.

There is a lot of dishonesty around Westerners complaining about foreign cheap labor. They claim to be championing labor rights, but they are often just angered at companies for stopping all manufacturing in the West. They see it as an obvious weakness in their ideology that companies can just walk away from their labor movement and go elsewhere. The obvious truth, and what literally all of these Vietnamese workers w…

as a Vietnamese, we just laugh when we read about those things, so out of touch with reality. It's very condescending as well, the logic is that developing countries are stupid so whatever deal they negotiate for themself must be at a disadvantage and bad for them. When I read criticism of China in Africa I could not help but asking myself, if these developed countries care so much why don't they invest in Africa so…

Funniest thing is that in the past Westerners were laughing at China for choosing manufacturing while glorifying their so called service economy. Now they are simping over manufacturing jobs.

> I would not be surprised if one day it's "communist Vietnam"'s turn to be the scapegoat.

Not even "vibrant democratic India" got spared

Re: Vietnam to make Apple Watch and MacBook

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Post by Lapsa »

88840-8855 wrote: post #407
jakuboboza wrote: post #389

US companies are silently escaping China to limit effects of possible tariffs or even war. Imho this is a strategic move to ensure future.

this is rather to limit economic exposure to a war that the US is planning. as now the US war against Russia in the proxy war in Ukraine, Europe and especially Germany will be the main victim. The US foreign politics is the main evil in the world and the EU is still following the Americans. It is incredible. We must get rid of all American influence in Europe, ban US tech, ban US military, get rid of the US propagand…

yes, indeed it is incredible

Re: Vietnam to make Apple Watch and MacBook

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Post by eunos »

killjoywashere wrote: post #109
koheripbal wrote: post #38

Earlier quoted context omitted.

There is a lot of dishonesty around Westerners complaining about foreign cheap labor. They claim to be championing labor rights, but they are often just angered at companies for stopping all manufacturing in the West. They see it as an obvious weakness in their ideology that companies can just walk away from their labor movement and go elsewhere. The obvious truth, and what literally all of these Vietnamese workers w…

> The true story with China is that moving Western manufacturing to China raised the standard of living for literally hundreds of millions of Chinese people out of poverty. And thereby strengthened the hand of the CCP.

Somebody needs to dispel the myth that "outside of liberalism/west there will be no prosperity"

Re: Vietnam to make Apple Watch and MacBook

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Post by rmbyrro »

elzbardico wrote: post #417
sandstrom wrote: post #408

Still a Chinese manufacturer… (Luxshare Precision Industry) If it had been a non-chinese company, it would have been a great move. Western companies will need to reduce their reliance on China in their supply chains.

And the rest of the world would do better to reduce its dependence on the US Dollar as its reserve currency.

The world would do better reducing reliance on any fiat currency for reserve purposes.

Re: Vietnam to make Apple Watch and MacBook

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Post by trasz »

sharikous wrote: post #441
actionfromafar wrote: post #421

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Here I thought the Ukraine was the main victim and Russia the perpetrator.

Look into it. It's definitely not a black and white aggression war. It definitely has elements of a proxy war that conveniently weakens both Russia and Europe

It is a very black and white aggression war. It’s just that the fighting parties also have other interests.

Re: Vietnam to make Apple Watch and MacBook

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Post by mrweasel »

iloveitaly wrote: post #68

I wonder how long it will be until Apple is running their own fabs, or at least diversifies away from heavily relying on TSMC. Has anyone seen news to this effect?

It seems more realistic that they will move to TSMC in the US, or in the future have Intel fab their chips.
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