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Edible insects role in transmission of parasitic diseases to humans (2019)

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Post by pvaldes »

throwaway09223 wrote: post #70
steve_adams_86 wrote: post #55

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I’ll pick the salad over the steak any day, though. Above all I’d love to see better technology and attention for food safety, though. It’s stunning to see how many people suffer from food born illness today — something I’d thought was far more under control up until my mid 30s. It’s better under many circumstances and I’m not going to pretend it’s anything like it has been in the past. However, we could do much, muc…

"I’ll pick the salad over the steak any day, though." In terms of food safety and risk of pathogens, salad is far, far more dangerous than steak.

At least the steak will not be soared in pesticides designed to kill animals

Re: Edible insects role in transmission of parasitic diseases to humans (2019)

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Post by LAC-Tech »

nfhshy68 wrote: post #11
instagraham wrote: post #5

Possibly like any other food source, then? Boils down to how they're grown, handled, prepared. Arguably, the wet markets in Wuhan wouldn't have been such a disease nightmare if the cages of live animals weren't kept one atop the other, dripping feces and other fluids between species and breaking the inter-species barrier.

Where do you get your information from? Have you seen that wetmarket? It looked pretty clean to me. Wetmarkets are diverse.

You've been to the wuhan one?

I've been to wet markets in a richer country than china, and it wasn't that clean.

Re: Edible insects role in transmission of parasitic diseases to humans (2019)

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Post by dirtyid »

>Conducted parasitological examination suggests that edible insects may be the most important parasite vector for domestic insectivorous animals

Bummer. I was aquainted with some folks in insect farming who tried to get novel food regulations moving years ago that for whatever reason gave up and fell back to insect based flours/protein powders and animal feed. Some of them had pretty interesting proposals integrating insect farming with recycling urban bio waste that then gets turned into animal feed which looked good on paper but I always wondered if that was recipe for disease. That said, crickets taste pretty good fried, but for some reason I don't like the idea of the meat I eat being fed on crickets.

Re: Edible insects role in transmission of parasitic diseases to humans (2019)

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Post by sidkshatriya »

orlp wrote: post #94
weberer wrote: post #87

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>my intuition here was way off. I expected insects to pose far fewer risks from parasites to humans. Weird, my intuition was the exact opposite. The thought of eating bugs triggers a disgust reaction, similar to the thought of eating crap. Humans developed those reactions over hundreds of generations for a reason.

A disgust of eating insects is not universal in all cultures.

There will always be some cultures that are different from the norm. 100% uniformity in human culture is very rare.

But look across the globe: I would posit that a large percentage of humans have a taboo against insect consumption.

If there are any counter examples that you can state from the world one must analyze how numerically large that community is within that country and the world.

In other words, don't count the number of cultures/communities that are OK with insect consumption, count the population of the cultures/communities that are OK with insect consumption.

Re: Edible insects role in transmission of parasitic diseases to humans (2019)

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Post by shaburn »

eru wrote: post #10
shaburn wrote: post #9

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I think the brakes should be slammed until that is answered. Unless we want another pandemic. Given the rate of mutation and transmission in bugs with natural gestation and migration, the probability of catastrophic outcomes is exponential without a similar dataset in other human food sources.

> [...] the probability of catastrophic outcomes is exponential [...] What does that even mean? Do you want to say that the probability is high?

Also, exponential from the social adoption input alone. Popularization has reached meme status virality(exponential by default).

Re: Edible insects role in transmission of parasitic diseases to humans (2019)

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Post by VBprogrammer »

sidkshatriya wrote: post #115
orlp wrote: post #94

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A disgust of eating insects is not universal in all cultures.

There will always be some cultures that are different from the norm. 100% uniformity in human culture is very rare. But look across the globe: I would posit that a large percentage of humans have a taboo against insect consumption. If there are any counter examples that you can state from the world one must analyze how numerically large that community is within that country and the world. In other words, don't count…

I don't think taboos are in anyway useful in determining health implications. For example, are dogs or horses in any way materially worse than cows or sheep for people to eat? Why are the French happy to eat frogs and snails?

I'm reasonably certain the idea of certain food being taboo is almost completely due to cultural norms.

Re: Edible insects role in transmission of parasitic diseases to humans (2019)

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Post by sidkshatriya »

ikiris wrote: post #102
devX3 wrote: post #88

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I mean it's raw but still in a steak you probably have way more substances and end of foodchain accumulations.

Oooo SUBSTANCES. THERE MIGHT BE SUBSTANCESSSSSSS.... please stop with the weasel scare words.

Food chain toxin accumulation is a real thing as you go up the food chain.

See https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Biomagnification

Re: Edible insects role in transmission of parasitic diseases to humans (2019)

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Post by justthinkhn »

Don’t eat the bugs. You have an innate disgust reaction to bugs and to the idea of eating them. It evolved over millions of years. Heed nature’s warning. They only eat bugs in places where it was historically necessary due to extreme famine. These activists trying to get you to eat bugs don’t have your best interests at heart. Eat meat. It is one of the great liberties man enjoys.

Re: Edible insects role in transmission of parasitic diseases to humans (2019)

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Post by sacrosancty »

noduerme wrote: post #91

My modest goal these days is to set myself and my descendants up so that none of us ever has to eat bugs. I don't care what it costs. Life isn't worth living if you can't happily chomp a steak, suck down a martini and light a cigarette at the table. It's not to piss people off. It's for enjoyment. Fuck people who can't enjoy life and want to make everything a disgusting misery for other people. If eating cockroaches…

There is a lot of puritanicalishism in current western culture. I miss the 1990's when people were excited for the future and the upward course of human history.
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