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Edible insects role in transmission of parasitic diseases to humans (2019)

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Re: Edible insects role in transmission of parasitic diseases to humans (2019)

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Post by jiggywiggy »

Shorel wrote: post #73
steve_adams_86 wrote: post #55

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I’ll pick the salad over the steak any day, though. Above all I’d love to see better technology and attention for food safety, though. It’s stunning to see how many people suffer from food born illness today — something I’d thought was far more under control up until my mid 30s. It’s better under many circumstances and I’m not going to pretend it’s anything like it has been in the past. However, we could do much, muc…

And I would pick pork ribs over those two any day. Cooking has been our food safety technology for millennia. Even for milk, pasteurization is a way of cooking it.

I often wonder if our lack of exposure to pathogens and parasites have anything to do with the extreme rise of auto immune diseases.

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Post by frankzander »

thelittleone wrote: post #62
steve_adams_86 wrote: post #55

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I’ll pick the salad over the steak any day, though. Above all I’d love to see better technology and attention for food safety, though. It’s stunning to see how many people suffer from food born illness today — something I’d thought was far more under control up until my mid 30s. It’s better under many circumstances and I’m not going to pretend it’s anything like it has been in the past. However, we could do much, muc…

Why, for example over say grass fed, organic steak?

because it's salad is a hell lot better in terms of environmental friendliness

Re: Edible insects role in transmission of parasitic diseases to humans (2019)

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Post by h0l0cube »

jimmySixDOF wrote: post #15

Big fan of Black Soldier Fly farming and there are efforts with grasshoppers. Not sure the featured article (TFA) issue extends beyond the few people working in production (increasingly automated [1]) because the output is a dry meal flour. This, Seaweeds, and directed precise fermentation are a big part of the 10B+ people solution. [1] https://www.rebelnews.com/worlds_largest_cricket_farm_finish...

> a big part of the 10B+ people solution

A better solution is not to have the problem in the first place

Re: Edible insects role in transmission of parasitic diseases to humans (2019)

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Post by kriro »

0x20cowboy wrote: post #35

I don’t get why it’s so hard for people to just stop eating animals.

The obvious answer is because they are tasty and people are used to it and it is ingrained in the very culture (cooking, traditional holiday meals etc) of pretty much every country I know of. Those are some of the strongest forces working in unison. Seems very unlikely hamankind will ever move off animal based diets.

Re: Edible insects role in transmission of parasitic diseases to humans (2019)

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Post by t-3 »

_0w8t wrote: post #69
wonderbore wrote: post #56

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> Ask yourself why humans refrained from eating them Plenty of humans don't eat plenty of meats and sea animals either. Traditions don't necessarily contain good wisdom. I think seeing a bug feast on feces and then having it sneak up on your food stashes might trigger an obvious reaction (similar to pigs and the reason why some don't eat them)

Compared with cows or sheep pigs eat what humans can eat, so growing pigs means wasting a lot of food that could be fed to people. Many historians argue that this was the primary reason why pork was banned in Islam and Judaism, not because pigs were considered unclean.

I've always heard it was because they'll happily eat human corpses (and other carrion). Especially back in the day, livestock were rarely penned, but rather let loose to forage. So pigs would be seen at battlefields eating corpses.

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Post by weberer »

steve_adams_86 wrote: post #2

I’ve wondered about this for a few years so this is extremely gratifying to read. I’ll have to go in deeper later to really understand the implications of each parasite, but my main takeaway is that my intuition here was way off. I expected insects to pose far fewer risks from parasites to humans. I wouldn’t have taken a chance based on that assumption, and cooking bugs seems like it would eliminate most of these pat…

>my intuition here was way off. I expected insects to pose far fewer risks from parasites to humans.

Weird, my intuition was the exact opposite. The thought of eating bugs triggers a disgust reaction, similar to the thought of eating crap. Humans developed those reactions over hundreds of generations for a reason.

Re: Edible insects role in transmission of parasitic diseases to humans (2019)

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Post by devX3 »

throwaway09223 wrote: post #70
steve_adams_86 wrote: post #55

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I’ll pick the salad over the steak any day, though. Above all I’d love to see better technology and attention for food safety, though. It’s stunning to see how many people suffer from food born illness today — something I’d thought was far more under control up until my mid 30s. It’s better under many circumstances and I’m not going to pretend it’s anything like it has been in the past. However, we could do much, muc…

"I’ll pick the salad over the steak any day, though." In terms of food safety and risk of pathogens, salad is far, far more dangerous than steak.

I mean it's raw but still in a steak you probably have way more substances and end of foodchain accumulations.
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