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Re: HP LaserJet Tank – Refillable laser printer

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CISS's (Continuous Ink Supply System's) have been around for decades. You can buy pretty basic printers and retrofit them with a $100 system that will hold enough ink to print 10's of thousands of pages. The problem with this system is that the ink heads dry (quickly). If you're doing a lot of printing (daily / weekly) – a CISS is pretty much your bread and butter. Refilling the ink in a CISS is pretty simple as well…

That's for inkjet printers though, no? This is for a laser printer. No worrying about drying ink heads. But now you've got me curious -- who is printing 10's of thousands of pages using an inkjet? I would have thought that anything at volume is laser, with the exception of photo printing.

> who is printing 10's of thousands of pages using an inkjet

Specialty applications such as large-format inkjets (eg 3ft/1m wide continuous roll paper), edible ink for baked goods applications, custom inks for branding/proofs/industrial, and so forth. My favorite was a specialty cake printer that was designed to print directly on the icing of a cake, not on an edible wax or fondant sheet (which always seem like cheating to me).

There are quite a few applications where desktop-like inkjets are used in high-throughput modes. They either don't sit idle long enough to suffer from dryout or they're built to deal with it. They do automatic light clean cycles and some models have rubber gasket head parking areas to seal the heads and prevent ink evaporation when idle. Some manufacturers also sell auto-cleaning units so the printer can do a full deep-clean automatically.

I'm not counting true industrial applications (eg packaging expiration date print heads) since those aren't usually document-centric nor do they speak desktop printing protocols like PCL.

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In my experience, the best Linux support has been from brother. Also, their printers seem more light weight (in a good way), and their compatible ink is cheaper. Good for basic documents etc, but probably not for printing photos.

OKI has absolutely the best color laser (really micro LED strip) printers, and they work flawlessly with PCs, Macs, or Linux, PCL, PS, or native, and wired or wireless (depending on model). I swore off all inkjet printing after buying my first color OKI over 20 years ago, and that decision has saved me thousands in ink and uncounted hours of frustration as I watched that ink being spewed out to clean clogged printhea…

What's a good model number for OKI? I'm in this market and have already had to send back a couple of printers for (among other things) dropped network connections.

Re: HP LaserJet Tank – Refillable laser printer

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Maybe worth mentioning the Epson EcoTank, included ink lasts forever, works offline, no weird DRM on the ink bottles that some are discussing here

Yes. I just bought the monochrome ecotank printer for a project and worked out with a rep from inkowl to get 3rd party mixable dye ink to print a custom mixed single color. worked pretty well.

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In my experience, the best Linux support has been from brother. Also, their printers seem more light weight (in a good way), and their compatible ink is cheaper. Good for basic documents etc, but probably not for printing photos.

I love my Brother, but their Mac support is (was?) laughable. Their main support path is to download the Brother app to load a PDF you output to your filesystem and send it to your printer. I'm clueless about the subtleties of printer drivers on Mac's but their solution was so clunky. Works flawlessly on Windows and with some minor tweaks on Linux Mint.

In my experience, for at least the last decade Brother laser printers (B&W and color) don't need anything special to work with Macs. Our household is currently on a 4+ year old color laser printer that "just worked" with our Macs, Windows machines, iOS devices, etc.

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Unless I want to make emergency office supply trips (in fact, I don't), I have to have something on the shelf. How is a half-ream worse than a ream?

The ream is wrapped and stays clean and secure until you load it in, a half ream is opened and loose and gets dirty and jams when you load it in.

If that bugs you, close it with Saran/plastic wrap. That's what we did when I was a typesetter.

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My HP LaserJet 6P is still running strong, almost 20 years after I bought it second-hand and almost 25 since it was released (!). I've been using nothing but unofficial toner in it and other than some streaking that developed in the last few years (too lazy to clean the toner for now), it's been flawless. Apparently HP made things so well for so long that they've decided to correct that mistake. No subscription requi…

Running stuff well within its intended duty cycle is also a good way to get a long life out of something. I like to buy second hand enterprise gear, and I really never see failures out of anything that wasn't already worn out.

I bought an HP Laserjet Enterprise M601DN off Craigslist 5 years ago for ~$150 from a business that closed down. Had 250K pages printed when I bought it, and I printed tens of thousands more (law school books). Still going strong with no issues.

If you have the space, older HP Enterprise printers are absolute tanks.

Re: HP LaserJet Tank – Refillable laser printer

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> Requires the HP Smart app download. > Subscription may be required; subscription may not be available in all countries > HP account required for full functionality > Get up to 5,000 pages or up to 2 years of pre-filled toner The disclaimers, or more succinctly, the anti-feature section.

more like, the anti-consumer subscription based feature section. Two things are a sure thing post 2020, Covid and subscriptions.
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