HP LaserJet Tank – Refillable laser printer
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#3I’m not sure I understand this. Inkjets go through ink fast so they need to be refilled a fair bit and those refills are expensive and hold very little.
Toner is good practically forever. A new toner cartridge isn’t cheap (and stupid DRM exists) but it’s still way better than inkjets. So I’m not sure this provides as much value.
Also, isn’t HP the company that likes to disable your printer if the credit/debit card on your auto-refill plan expires? They’re not exactly a bastion of integrity.
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#4> NOTE: The printer only works with original HP toner refill kits. If original HP toner is not installed in the printer,
the printer will not work as expected.
Still vendor locked. Rather just stick with something you can refill yourself.
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#5I’m not sure I understand this. Inkjets go through ink fast so they need to be refilled a fair bit and those refills are expensive and hold very little. Toner is good practically forever. A new toner cartridge isn’t cheap (and stupid DRM exists) but it’s still way better than inkjets. So I’m not sure this provides as much value. Also, isn’t HP the company that likes to disable your printer if the credit/debit card on…
The only way I could see this providing value is for larger multi-function printers that offices use - I don't see this having any benefit in the home/small office market - just seems like they're trying to ride the wave of Canon(Epson?)'s refillable inkjet tanks.
Toner is pretty toxic (fine microplastics that are easily aerosolized - they go right through a lot of vacuum filters!!!) so I could see them marketing it as "don't touch dirty disgusting toner cartridges anymore! You don't even have to _SEE_ the toner!"
This could probably also make it a LOT easier for third parties to make HP toner refills, unless HP's done something like trademark/copyright/patent the "toner delivery mechanism" to stop third parties from copying it.
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#6> NOTE: The printer only works with original HP toner refill kits. If original HP toner is not installed in the printer, the printer will not work as expected. Still vendor locked. Rather just stick with something you can refill yourself.
I wonder how they could tell though - Maybe the refill bottles themselves have electrical contacts and that's how they serialize the refills? Once it's been dumped into the printer, they burn an efuse on the refill so it's now useless to anybody?
Seems like more waste than anything.
Re: HP LaserJet Tank – Refillable laser printer
#7> NOTE: The printer only works with original HP toner refill kits. If original HP toner is not installed in the printer, the printer will not work as expected. Still vendor locked. Rather just stick with something you can refill yourself.
I wonder how they could tell though - Maybe the refill bottles themselves have electrical contacts and that's how they serialize the refills? Once it's been dumped into the printer, they burn an efuse on the refill so it's now useless to anybody? Seems like more waste than anything.
uhh.. or maybe just chemistry? you can fill the tank with urine if you want but YMMV.
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#8> Requires the HP Smart app download.
> Subscription may be required; subscription may not be available in all countries
> HP account required for full functionality
> Get up to 5,000 pages or up to 2 years of pre-filled toner
The disclaimers, or more succinctly, the anti-feature section.
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#9> 250-sheet paper input tray
nothing more annoying than having a half-empty ream of paper sitting on a shelf.
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#10I’m not sure I understand this. Inkjets go through ink fast so they need to be refilled a fair bit and those refills are expensive and hold very little. Toner is good practically forever. A new toner cartridge isn’t cheap (and stupid DRM exists) but it’s still way better than inkjets. So I’m not sure this provides as much value. Also, isn’t HP the company that likes to disable your printer if the credit/debit card on…
> Also, isn’t HP the company that likes to disable your printer if the credit/debit card on your auto-refill plan expires? They’re not exactly a bastion of integrity.
How is that evidence of integrity or not? The subscription ink is only good when your subscription is good. Netflix doesn't let you watch movies when you don't pay either. You're not allowed to drive your car if your license or registration expires (although neither is enforced through the internet).
Afaik, all of the HP printers that work with subscription ink also work with owned ink, too. For low volume printer users who are capable of managing their account, the lowest tier subscription seems like a reasonable way to keep fresh ink on hand, but I dunno. I opted for laser color and don't have to deal with liquid supplies anymore, but at a higher capital cost and the printer only takes more volume than my previous multifunction inkjet (which I keep so I can scan).