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Ford F-150 Lightning: Fast Truck, Slow Computer

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Re: Ford F-150 Lightning: Fast Truck, Slow Computer

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Post by davidw »

vanilla_nut wrote: post #242
davidw wrote: post #87

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This "arms race" is piling up stacks and stacks of bodies.

I've been slowly writing a near-future science fiction story where everyone drives around 15 feet above the ground and has to enter their car on a ladder, because over 50 years vehicles slowly crept up in height and nobody wanted to be the "low car" on the road. It started out as a joke back in 2010, partially inspired by "A Nice Morning Drive" ( http://www.2112.net/powerwindows/transcripts/19731100roadand... ) from…

I did this with DALL-E: https://twitter.com/davidnwelton/status/1547019886811021313

Re: Ford F-150 Lightning: Fast Truck, Slow Computer

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Post by kernal »

hedora wrote: post #417
WorldMaker wrote: post #146

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> This doesn’t seem like a good idea because there are Android people and iOS people Android Automotive (the "base OS" that's not even really "Android" in the way that you think of it from phones; the impression I have gathered is that it is a separate embedded Linux sharing only a few parts and iterating in a different pace) that Ford is moving to still supports Apple CarPlay as well as it supports Android Auto (the…

As long as Google will pay to recall and repair the truck the day they stop security updates, and also guarantee that it makes zero connections to their servers, the arrangement you describe is no worse than the status quo.

Why would Google pay for something Ford is entirely responsible for? Ford is rolling a customized version of Android Automotive, as all car OEMs are. Do you blame Google for Samsung not updating their phones?

Re: Ford F-150 Lightning: Fast Truck, Slow Computer

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Post by ubermonkey »

samatman wrote: post #260
ubermonkey wrote: post #119

This is one of those things I'll never experience, and doubly so: I have no use for a truck (I live in a city), and I have never owned or wanted to own an American-made car. They're just all so _bad_.

Can we get a few more paragraphs about you? You sound interesting, obviously you like to talk about yourself, got another anecdote?

Aren't you cute!

Re: Ford F-150 Lightning: Fast Truck, Slow Computer

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Post by AlotOfReading »

hef19898 wrote: post #401
AlotOfReading wrote: post #394

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So for context, I'm in automotive on the FAANG side and work closely with people at traditional companies. There's some misunderstandings here. For one thing, there are obviously skilled people working at every salary level. What you're missing is that this is largely irrelevant. Relative compensation (in software) is a shockingly good proxy for all the associated support and people investments to support them. Emplo…

>> They don't consider software to be a core competence Because it isn't for OEMs, theirbequipment is their core competency and aoftware, especially the entertainment side of things for automotive OEMs, is just part of that.

Would you argue that software isn't a core competency for Apple or Samsung because they sell phones? Same situation.

Modern vehicles are just distributed computers with tires, and self driving vehicles are worse. Virtually every feature is either massively supported or entirely enabled by software.

Re: Ford F-150 Lightning: Fast Truck, Slow Computer

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Post by dayvid »

sjfidsfkds wrote: post #399
cbozeman wrote: post #384

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> Oh, we don't do it for the software. We can hire 100 people out of Ohio State or Michigan and pay them midwest wages and get the same quality. No they can't... or they would. Deeds. Not words.

I’ve encountered a bunch of people with that sort of background working that kind of job, it’s a real thing.

Yeah, I know someone who works at GE (in more traditional engineering). They have masters degrees and when I compare my salary or even someone starting out at a FAANG or Web 2.0/3.0 SWE with theirs, I'm genuinely surprised.

They also tend to not be aware of the salary ranges out there and I think these traditional companies are exploiting them because most of the engineers really respect the companies and what they stand (or at least stood) for.

Re: Ford F-150 Lightning: Fast Truck, Slow Computer

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Post by ubermonkey »

symlinkk wrote: post #198
ubermonkey wrote: post #119

This is one of those things I'll never experience, and doubly so: I have no use for a truck (I live in a city), and I have never owned or wanted to own an American-made car. They're just all so _bad_.

What do you drive?

Hondas for a long time. Then a smattering of German makes before we got our GTI about 6 years ago.

Re: Ford F-150 Lightning: Fast Truck, Slow Computer

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Post by [deleted] »

hef19898 wrote: post #396
AlotOfReading wrote: post #316

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I know they're not stupid, but it's still very frustrating when you have to go and use anything such offices produce. So many unnecessarily cut corners and penny wise, pound foolish decisions.

That's quite the statement considering how many corners, to pick one examole, Tesla is cutting constantly.

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Re: Ford F-150 Lightning: Fast Truck, Slow Computer

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Post by francisofascii »

golemiprague wrote: post #343
eneumann wrote: post #48

As a cyclist, I'm super excited about one day being run over by one of these things. The giant vehicle trend is getting a lot of people killed. And why does any vehicle need to accelerate that quickly? It's irresponsible on public roads. I would really love to see acceleration and speed limiters on vehicles.

Why irresponsible? it is better to get to the desired speed quickly, it means less congestion and less distraction for vehicles behind you. Every driver should thrive to drive as fast as they can as long as it is not above the speed limit or road conditions.

Two acceleration downsides with electric vehicles. Fast acceleration will wear out tires much faster. Also, the fuel/battery economy is poor. I know the Prius Prime will give you a driving score which is greatly reduced by fast acceleration. But I agree is it helpful to accelerate quickly when the light turns green to get more throughput through an intersection.

Re: Ford F-150 Lightning: Fast Truck, Slow Computer

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Post by kernal »

HWR_14 wrote: post #275
uncletaco wrote: post #101

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Well that's you, somebody else might want to use the subscription music service they pay for and use car controls to change the tracks, someone else might want a map that displays in the center console as opposed to their phone, etc etc. With android there's the possibility of adding apps that people would want to the car itself. This would be something device manufacturers could be interested in for dash cams or oth…

And, if like more than half of Americans I decided I didn't want an Android phone, now I get coerced to use Android to listen to my subscription music service, etc.

I suggest you research Android Automotive and what exactly it is, as it's not an "Android phone". As for half of Americans not wanting to use Android, because it's Android, I find that statement amusing as you would rather force their customers to continue using their maligned Ford Sync system then a superior solution with an actual ecosystem.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Android_Automotive

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