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Re: Sorry, your wife is Indian, landlord won’t rent to you

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Post by [deleted] »

idk1 wrote: post #65
TomVDB wrote: post #10

Was surprised to see “Singapore”, expected “Bay Area.” When I left my last rental after buying a house, my elderly white landlord asked me to help him put the property on Craigslist. When I did so and mentioned the Cupertino school district, he asked me to remove that part because “it would attract too many Indian families with kids” to avoid the curry smell. He had no issue with other Asian ethnicities, the previous…

I'm white and my husband is British Indian. Back in 2010 now before we were married he got a few rental rejects, one specifically mentioned the curry issue. He's never cooked a curry in his life. I just want to give him a hug when these things happen, it's awful.

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Re: Sorry, your wife is Indian, landlord won’t rent to you

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Post by swagasaurus-rex »

unpopularopp wrote: post #97
ajsnigrutin wrote: post #54

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Racism is relative.... I live in a former socialist country (with red stars, government owning the means of production and also a dictator), and things like affirmative action and prefered minority hiring would be seen as totally racist here.

>Racism is relative. >things like affirmative action and prefered minority hiring would be seen as totally racist here No they aren't Whole Central Europe from Poland to Hungary through Ukraine and the Balkan and racist against Roma people. Pretty much everyone hates them. Most governments and the EU have special programs to help Roma people to get jobs because they are discriminated everywhere.

If a Roma individual took up a job and integrated with society, would they still be Roma?

Re: Sorry, your wife is Indian, landlord won’t rent to you

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Post by b112 »

idk1 wrote: post #65
TomVDB wrote: post #10

Was surprised to see “Singapore”, expected “Bay Area.” When I left my last rental after buying a house, my elderly white landlord asked me to help him put the property on Craigslist. When I did so and mentioned the Cupertino school district, he asked me to remove that part because “it would attract too many Indian families with kids” to avoid the curry smell. He had no issue with other Asian ethnicities, the previous…

I'm white and my husband is British Indian. Back in 2010 now before we were married he got a few rental rejects, one specifically mentioned the curry issue. He's never cooked a curry in his life. I just want to give him a hug when these things happen, it's awful.

I'm a white canuck, and love curry and other hot spices.

I feel like if I ever rent there, I should invite you guys over, the use the opportunity to cook curry.

Even if we just eat steaks, and I put the curry in the fridge for later, your husband will likely get the blame.

It would be an interesting test/data point. Does the landlord approach me, and say no more Indian guests?

Plus, at least you guys get a free meal out of it.

Re: Sorry, your wife is Indian, landlord won’t rent to you

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Post by rowanG077 »

b112 wrote: post #134
rowanG077 wrote: post #94

Earlier quoted context omitted.

So the legal system needs to be fixed. Putting the power of sheltering people into the hands of landlords is ridiculous. The government wouldn't decide who lives in your property. You can always choose to not rent it of course, or rent it to a friend. But if you want rent it and you have someone willing to take it you can't say no.

This would only be fair, if by law rent is paid before the month owed, and a person can be evicted with one day's arrears. Oh, and a deposit for damage paid too, which has no bearing on the above rent and late eviction. That might start to be fair with your logic. I might add, this is the same logic with pre or post pay things. Prepaid phone vs postpay on credit...

Rent, in my country at least, is already paid in advance. Daily eviction powers are inhumane and unnecessary with rent that is paid in advance. Damages should be factored into the rent.

THe way I would envision is that landlord is not allowed to manage any of that. Let's say you have a property, you can go to the government and say: "Hey, I have this property that I want to rent.". With the option of also giving a specific tenant if you want. The government then takes over completely. They get a free for managing the property and you get the rest. Government handles everything from eviction to damages to new tenant search.

Re: Sorry, your wife is Indian, landlord won’t rent to you

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Post by jamisteven »

lettergram wrote: post #30

Every time I hear “America is racist” I remind people the world is far more racist - see story above. This is common practice everywhere. Europe, Asia, etc. they discriminate for different reasons and in different ways, but they all do it and it’s almost always overt. That’s the culture in the region, imo it’s not “wrong”. People self-select and who am I to discriminate against their culture? They do it for their rea…

This. Having lived in Switzerland for the past four years I am shocked by this revelation, people think America is a super racist place, it doesnt hold a flame to other parts of the world, in fact its the opposite.

Re: Sorry, your wife is Indian, landlord won’t rent to you

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Post by b112 »

rowanG077 wrote: post #154
b112 wrote: post #134

Earlier quoted context omitted.

This would only be fair, if by law rent is paid before the month owed, and a person can be evicted with one day's arrears. Oh, and a deposit for damage paid too, which has no bearing on the above rent and late eviction. That might start to be fair with your logic. I might add, this is the same logic with pre or post pay things. Prepaid phone vs postpay on credit...

Rent, in my country at least, is already paid in advance. Daily eviction powers are inhumane and unnecessary with rent that is paid in advance. Damages should be factored into the rent. THe way I would envision is that landlord is not allowed to manage any of that. Let's say you have a property, you can go to the government and say: "Hey, I have this property that I want to rent.". With the option of also giving a sp…

This is not inhumane, if you can't block people based upon their inability to pay, or upon their past treatment of rental units.

It has to be fair for both parties.

And rent paid in advance is only so, if not in arrears.

But understand, my comment was responding to a post claiming that there should be no way to have a choice in whom you rent to.

I've seen units with a years rent in damages. Ripped carpet, holes in walls, smashed appliances and lights, etc.

But people want there to be no way to chose renters, based upon credit and past history?!

edit: your edited post clarifies things a bit. My primary concern is about forcing costs on the landlords, if there are no reliably checks. So I am open to ideas that take this into account.

edit2: more clarity here, that 'year's worth of rent in damages' was gross, not profit. It happens too frequently too. EG if rent is $100, a year of rent is $1200, but it isn't as if the landlord pockets that. Not even remotely close. Some landlords only make 30% on their units, when property tax, upkeep, water and other included things are involved.

So massive damage can take years to recoup!

Re: Sorry, your wife is Indian, landlord won’t rent to you

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Post by deltathreetwo »

lettergram wrote: post #30

Every time I hear “America is racist” I remind people the world is far more racist - see story above. This is common practice everywhere. Europe, Asia, etc. they discriminate for different reasons and in different ways, but they all do it and it’s almost always overt. That’s the culture in the region, imo it’s not “wrong”. People self-select and who am I to discriminate against their culture? They do it for their rea…

I find this post hilarious. You're trying to juggle an idea that is in itself paradoxical and illogical.

The idea that all forms of discrimination are bad. Hear me out.

All discrimination is bad including cultural discrimination. However if a culture discriminates against sex or race how do I reconcile this paradox? By respecting a culture must I respect a culture a discrimination? The parent post is a confused person trying to make sense of the paradox.

My suggestion is to get above all of it. You don't need to crystallize discrimination into a hard black and white rule where if you discriminate your evil and if you don't your good. Much of America has this attitude and they can't rise above it.

There are legitimate logical and mathematical correlations between race and certain traits, between sex and certain traits and between culture and certain traits. To judge a person for these traits based off of sex, culture and race can be very rational due to these very real correlations.

But instead America has embraced woke culture which takes these anti discrimination views to the extreme such that you get male athletes with sex changes competing with women in female sports. It's sort of insane. But I get it.

This wokenesses attitude arises from a past where Americans took discrimination to illogical levels and committed atrocities because of it. Now our country lives in the extremes. You are either racist/sexist or you are woke. Pick one, because there isn't really a word for a moderate viewpoint on this topic.

The hypocrisy is all around us. Don't discriminate against gender but we must segregate restrooms into male and female versions. Are you saying males are lecherous pervs and we must give females a safe space to piss, shit and do makeup? It's actually completely sexist to segregate restrooms when men and women practically share every other space.

Re: Sorry, your wife is Indian, landlord won’t rent to you

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Post by scarby2 »

foobarbecue wrote: post #130
starkd wrote: post #116

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I don't deny they exist, but they have been marginalized in society. They don't hold any significant power in terms of holding people back.

The problem isn't overt racists so much as subtle, persistent bias, which absolutely holds people back in very significant ways. See my comment about my grandmother. And... unless you're in a marginalized minority group, you really aren't in a position to know how racist people are. Oh yeah, I just remembered, we also recently had a president for four years who was overly racist. Remember his attacks on Judge Curiel?…

> And... unless you're in a marginalized minority group, you really aren't in a position to know how racist people are.

My experience is that people are more likely to share racist views with other people of their ethnic group but would likely never be overtly hostile to a person of a different race.

Also, I think if you are in a marginalized group it's extremely hard to disambiguate racism from general assholery.

If you don't get hired for a job you'll never know if it was because the interviewer was racist or because he just didn't like you

Re: Sorry, your wife is Indian, landlord won’t rent to you

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Post by spywaregorilla »

em-bee wrote: post #137
spywaregorilla wrote: post #103

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I had no idea people identified as African Americans outside of America

why would they not? do caucasian americans identify as europeans outside of america? or mexicans as spanisch?

African American is neither a race nor a citizenship. If you're of African descent, born in England, you may say you're African, or English, but you'll likely never say you're English African. There's a sense of heritage in African American descent but it's also very messy. A black man from England travelling to America could plausibly be called African American because it's largely been redefined as "Black but not culturally African" in what I assumed was culturally local definition.

Re: Sorry, your wife is Indian, landlord won’t rent to you

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Post by thematrixturtle »

thowerui23423 wrote: post #92

Is this a Singapore thing ? There was a video trending on Reddit where a Korean streamer going around SG in normal summer dress was accosted by some rando woman telling her to cover up, else the "indians will rape you". Quite frankly, reading the propaganda coming out of Western outlets over the course of my whole life (and for 400+ years of occidental "anti-pagan" hate and lies), I'm so tired as to be not even elici…

No, it's a racist thing. These attitudes exist in Singapore, but they're not tolerated and a university professor saying similar things was fired and investigated by police for it.

https://www.straitstimes.com/singapore/ngee-ann-poly-to-fire...

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