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Using the same Arch Linux installation for a decade

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Re: Using the same Arch Linux installation for a decade

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totally of topic... as a previous Arch user, I switched to POP-OS with my new laptop, simply because it worked out of box with everything, and I struggled to even make a proper SMB connection to windows network with ARch... not to mention automatical USB stick mounting etc... However, as someone who would like to get back to Arch because gnome uses so much power, and I am missing the simplicity of Arch, is there some good tutorial to make it a decent distro right after installation including the sound, nvidia graphic, network settings, display (with external usbc connected display) etc...

Re: Using the same Arch Linux installation for a decade

#382
All the issues mentioned in these comments would be way too much for me. Sure I could fix them and move on... unless they happened on a very busy day. Then they could tank a schedule.

And busy days can show up suddenly. What if I get a super last minute job right after I decided to update my packages and break something?

It seems like using Arch or any tech that involves any tinkering requires accepting that the system isn't a total point of trust for your whole life. You have to have an attitude of "I'll make it work" rather than "I know my gear is dependable".

Re: Using the same Arch Linux installation for a decade

#383

All the issues mentioned in these comments would be way too much for me. Sure I could fix them and move on... unless they happened on a very busy day. Then they could tank a schedule. And busy days can show up suddenly. What if I get a super last minute job right after I decided to update my packages and break something? It seems like using Arch or any tech that involves any tinkering requires accepting that the syst…

Same stuff can happen with Windows too with unexpected updates. Not sure about Mac though, I've never used one.

Re: Using the same Arch Linux installation for a decade

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I'm a happy user of another rolling release distribution: Debian testing. It's on my desktop and a laptop for a decade (even more for the desktop since I transferred the OS from my previous desktop pc). I can't remember any problem during the upgrades of the recent years. I often apply partial updates through `aptitude` on a weekly basis, and full upgrades once in a while (maybe monthly). There were some rough times…

Me too! I do unattended-upgrades 4 times daily. I also auto-upgrade packages to unstable when there are security updates that didn't reach testing yet. https://wiki.debian.org/DebianTesting#Best_practices_for_Tes...

I do it 5 times daily

Re: Using the same Arch Linux installation for a decade

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I always reinstall from scratch although I could just Debian "dist upgrade". My thinking is this: if, ten years ago, I somehow missed a security patch or some 0-day owned my machine before it was patched, then I'd potentially have been copying / dd'ing / rsync'ing a rootkit for ten years. By installing from scratch at every new stable (or unstable) release, I get rid of a lot of potential security issues. Now as an a…

I reinstall once a year. Nowadays, with PXE booting, preseed files, and automation like Ansible, everything is pretty much automated for me. This goes for both my personal and work laptops. Both have been running some version of Debian for the last ten years. For the previous four/five years, I've been on Debian Sid, and I may run into an issue about every other year that requires me to use timeshift to go back to ye…

that sounds awesome! could you provide a few more details? I'd love to set up something like that too

Re: Using the same Arch Linux installation for a decade

#387
I have the same experience here. I installed Arch on 2011. I've switched laptops multiple times. Once I copied the entire disk as-is into the new one and grew the partition. Another time I rsync'd the entire disk.

Things broke probably one or two times throughout this time. I broke things more times while tinkering with internals or startup sequence myself. I've learnt an immense amount doing this too.

Arch requires a bit of effort getting into, but honestly, the KISS philosophy really pays off.

Re: Using the same Arch Linux installation for a decade

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Mine is around 6-7 years old. Started off as an Antergos on T450s, then moved to T480 and later on I replaced the extra repos and the startup logo with EndeavourOS after the Antergos ones went dark. However, I can see a noticable slowdown and some services occasionally acting weird - once every few months i need to switch to a terminal and use loginctl to unlock my session. I am seriously considering a reinstall, no…

I tried to do a reinstall a while back. Gave up around 4 hours in. Installing arch was easy, getting it how I liked it on the other hand. That was gonna take another couple weekends of figuring out what I did 5 years ago to make X work just right.

I did a re-install last year to get rid of the clutter. I created a document that describes every step. Whenever I install a new package, that is going to be useful, I add it to pacman -S command in the document.

Re: Using the same Arch Linux installation for a decade

#389

Earlier quoted context omitted.

refrigerators don't really use much power while running. As a joke-y test i ran my refrigerator off of my truck via an inverter connected to the battery terminals and 3 50' extension cords. I think a fridge draws less than a decent GPU while running. You do, however, need a decent inverter to start the compressor running in the fridge, though. Also, a deep freeze that is the top loading style is best for preventing s…

Yeah, our fridge has a top loading freezer. I think that stuff spoiled once during a particularly long outage. We do also have an upright freezer. We purchased that after getting the generator, so the advantage of it keeping stuff frozen longer was less important to us than the convenience of easier access. (And we were okay to sacrifice a bit on capacity too.) We also have a hot tub and we're in New England. We were…

Any particular model of the generator you can recommend?

Re: Using the same Arch Linux installation for a decade

#390

So basically you use Arch Linux? (: btw, I use openSUSE Tumbleweed - more stable rolling release and it's awesome. Never going back to regular release with painful major updates every few years

No offense, but how could possibly Debian Sid and the SUSE have more stable rolling release. For a rolling release you count on the default configuration working and both Debian and SUSE are a hell of customise scripts. I don't think it is technically possible for that to be working better.
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