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Re: Ford F-150 Lightning: Fast Truck, Slow Computer

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Post by namecheapTA »

rascul wrote: post #228
namecheapTA wrote: post #107

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Atleast when a Dodge Charger is charging up from behind, I can hear the thing. Pedestrians can hear the thing. When the demographic that currently commits most reckless driving eventually adopts electric cars, it's going to be a blood bath.

> Atleast when a Dodge Charger is charging up from behind, I can hear the thing. Do you mean while driving? How does that work? Even with my windows open I can't hear vehicles until they're at least next to me. I don't have a loud vehicle and hearing tests show I have good hearing.

Either dodge chargers in your area don't have the loud exhausts that they do here in California, or you have a problem of some sort. Loud noises bounce off the road, off buildings. Basically the reason you can hear someone talking yell even if they are facing away from you.

Re: Ford F-150 Lightning: Fast Truck, Slow Computer

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Post by BeetleB »

vel0city wrote: post #110
izacus wrote: post #90

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I own a Mazda and using Android Auto with physical controls works just fine, no idea what the OP is talking about. All the main driving features are accessible by buttons and don't need eyes off the road. It's a massive difference in compasion to some brands that require you to use touchscreen to switch to next track or adjust AC temp.

Which cars have touchscreens and don't have steering wheel media controls?

My Subaru doesn't have any buttons to go to preset radio stations. I can use the steering wheel buttons to go one by one till I get to the right one but it's an awful experience. It takes a second just to switch one time. Several seconds just to get to something that's instantaneous in cases that have buttons.

Re: Ford F-150 Lightning: Fast Truck, Slow Computer

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Post by cypress66 »

TylerE wrote: post #29
Rooster61 wrote: post #7

It's incredibly frustrating to me that buying a vehicle with a pushbutton, working, reliable interface is becoming increasingly impossible to do. Why is UX so horrifically bad in the vehicle space? Is it poor management decisions or a shortage of good UX engineers? I get that lumping everything into the touchscreen can be a cheaper option to build, but I'd GLADLY pay for a different option. I don't understand it.

None of that. Costs. Buttons are expensive, and additional points of failure. Cheaper to just cram everything into a touchscreen.

Kind of. The interior of car from 15 years ago with mostly buttons and a tiny screen is much cheaper than a Tesla with a massive screen and powerful computer.

Of course if you're going to have a massive screen and powerful computer anyways (because people want that), yes, you can save in not having buttons in addition to the massive screen.

But the massive screen is not cheaper than old school cars.

Re: Ford F-150 Lightning: Fast Truck, Slow Computer

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Post by namecheapTA »

vanilla_nut wrote: post #244
throwaway894345 wrote: post #169

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That’s an interesting observation that I hadn’t considered. My enthusiasm for EVs has been pretty unmitigated previously. I still think climate is important enough that dealing with the safety stuff is probably tractable and also the lesser evil, but it’s good to have line of sight on it.

Unmitigated ? Are you not worried about the infrastructure impact of doubling the weight of most classes of vehicle?

Heck, even the safety aspect. And the mining of materials. The recycling aspect (or lack there of), or the disposability of the vehicles if the battery/charging system bricks itself. The Chevy Volt forums are full of people losing thousands of dollars because their low miles car worth about $10k, needs a $10k battery module or two.

Re: Ford F-150 Lightning: Fast Truck, Slow Computer

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Post by dymk »

eneumann wrote: post #48

As a cyclist, I'm super excited about one day being run over by one of these things. The giant vehicle trend is getting a lot of people killed. And why does any vehicle need to accelerate that quickly? It's irresponsible on public roads. I would really love to see acceleration and speed limiters on vehicles.

You bike on many construction sites?

Re: Ford F-150 Lightning: Fast Truck, Slow Computer

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Post by kevin_thibedeau »

cmrdporcupine wrote: post #182
Dig1t wrote: post #177

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I completely agree with your conclusion, this is why I feel that European tech companies can't compete with US ones at all. They just refuse to pay enough to attract the best engineers.

Well here's a North American company clearly not willing to pay competitive software engineering rates even within the continent, and trying to take advantage of sub-regional low rates. Like, they're not in Toronto, but just west of it, and companies there are paying less, so, hey, they should pay less, too, right? You get what you pay for. This is what happens when HR drones are allowed to do naive "compensation ran…

The issue is that firmware engineering is strongly adjacent to EE which is sorely underpaid in the US considering the skillset the jobs require. Hiring managers are looking for EE refugees used to being underpaid.

Re: Ford F-150 Lightning: Fast Truck, Slow Computer

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Post by dieselgate »

boc wrote: post #218
sleepydog wrote: post #203

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Are there any professions in European countries that are paid as well as US tech workers, for similar levels of skill and/or education? Moreover, if EU tech companies are not willing to pay the best software/hardware engineers what they're worth, where do they all go? Not everyone wants to live in the US or work remotely.

Despite the general online sentiment, it's important to realize that the average American makes an absurd amount of money compared to their global peers. Even adjusting for PPP and other factors, average disposable household income for the US - a nation of 340M people - blows the doors off Luxembourg, Switzerland, Norway, etc. [1]. What's more though, median disposable income per capita ALSO places the US at the very…

Yeah I guess so but we (americans) also have to worry about healthcare and having (basically) no parental leave etc so always kind of figured it wasn’t as good as it sounds. Open to interpretation maybe. Was under the impression Australians are paid very well in comparison? Like pretty good minimum wages and holidays - in addition to lucrative trades work. Just have personal experience to vouch for his though.

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Post by oceanplexian »

ceeplusplus wrote: post #247
megablast wrote: post #186

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What a strange comment. Ford is a us tech company. Most people in Europe don’t want to leave.

> Most people in Europe don’t want to leave Sure, but most people aren't skilled white collar tech workers with in demand skills who could be earning 3x post-tax salary in the US. Health insurance is essentially free or cheap at any good tech company. EU pensions are underfunded (just like US ones) and as a high paid tech worker you're better off with maxing your 401k anyways. If you look at the nationalities in any…

Half the people I work with are from Western Europe and they won’t waste any time to take a dig at our lack of social safety net.

However, the thing I’d be worried about in their position, is, if the safety net is actually a sustainable project in a time of declining economic growth. They’re extrapolating on 30 or 40 years worth of data and if you’re retiring in 30 or 40 years a lot can change. Look what’s happened with the austerity crisis, something EU folks usually don’t want to talk about. Personally I’d want to manage my own retirement and risk tolerance.

Re: Ford F-150 Lightning: Fast Truck, Slow Computer

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Post by denkmoon »

vanilla_nut wrote: post #233
denkmoon wrote: post #222

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>Companies like this will be in real trouble if remote work continues to be a thing. They better hope it doesn't. Would be much healthier for humanity overall if these poorly managed companies, you know, just died from their poor management.

If recent US policy is any indication, it's far more likely that we'll give them billions of dollars of direct subsidy in a misguided attempt "protect American interests."

We're protecting jobs you see. People need jobs to survive, so we have to protect the jobs, not the people.

By giving companies money.

Re: Ford F-150 Lightning: Fast Truck, Slow Computer

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Post by cmrdporcupine »

kevin_thibedeau wrote: post #266
cmrdporcupine wrote: post #182

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Well here's a North American company clearly not willing to pay competitive software engineering rates even within the continent, and trying to take advantage of sub-regional low rates. Like, they're not in Toronto, but just west of it, and companies there are paying less, so, hey, they should pay less, too, right? You get what you pay for. This is what happens when HR drones are allowed to do naive "compensation ran…

The issue is that firmware engineering is strongly adjacent to EE which is sorely underpaid in the US considering the skillset the jobs require. Hiring managers are looking for EE refugees used to being underpaid.

That definitely is part of it.
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