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Ford F-150 Lightning: Fast Truck, Slow Computer

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Re: Ford F-150 Lightning: Fast Truck, Slow Computer

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Post by brailsafe »

cmrdporcupine wrote: post #182
Dig1t wrote: post #177

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I completely agree with your conclusion, this is why I feel that European tech companies can't compete with US ones at all. They just refuse to pay enough to attract the best engineers.

Well here's a North American company clearly not willing to pay competitive software engineering rates even within the continent, and trying to take advantage of sub-regional low rates. Like, they're not in Toronto, but just west of it, and companies there are paying less, so, hey, they should pay less, too, right? You get what you pay for. This is what happens when HR drones are allowed to do naive "compensation ran…

This is very true. I now work for a massive global company with offices here in Vancouver. They bought the company I was contracting for, and lowballed me on salary saying it was competitive with the region, but in the same month, I was I interviewing across the street at Amazon for a hell of a lot more. If I had got the job it wouldn't have been even remotely worth considering. I tried negotiating, but no budge, so we'll see how long that lasts I guess. Not even competitive with other smaller companies in the city.

Companies don't seem to get that even though software devs tend to make more than most, the reality is that in the GTA or GVA it literally costs between $600k and $2m for a modest home. Even a renter would be stupid to not factor in the likelihood their rent will dramatically increase during the time they'll be employed.

Ya, great that I can afford a tiny studio basement suite while splitting rent, but I can't yet whether any significant emergencies or really think about eventually renting a place with a bedroom in it.

Everyone in lower income brackets is just really scraping by more than they'd care to admit.

Re: Ford F-150 Lightning: Fast Truck, Slow Computer

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Post by misiti3780 »

jconley wrote: post #113

Can confirm. I have an F-150 Lightning. The UI sucks and is slow. Much worse than my Teslas. It takes like 30 seconds when I get in the truck and turn it on before it's even usable. Switching between CarPlay and the native interface is ridiculous. It's a great truck though. Love it. :) AMA.

What is the real range vs EPA range?

Re: Ford F-150 Lightning: Fast Truck, Slow Computer

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Post by misiti3780 »

hughes wrote: post #199
avidphantasm wrote: post #151

“the games are certainly playable” WHY THE FUCK ARE THERE GAMES ON A CAR?!?

When you have to wait 20 to 40+ minutes for it to charge, having something to poke at for even a minute can help break up the monotony.

read.

Re: Ford F-150 Lightning: Fast Truck, Slow Computer

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Post by misiti3780 »

eneumann wrote: post #48

As a cyclist, I'm super excited about one day being run over by one of these things. The giant vehicle trend is getting a lot of people killed. And why does any vehicle need to accelerate that quickly? It's irresponsible on public roads. I would really love to see acceleration and speed limiters on vehicles.

Not sure why you are so concerned with acceleration.... If you're on a bike, it doesnt matter if you get hit by a truck at 30, 45, or 60. You're most likely dead anyways, adnd if you survive, there is a good chance you wish you were dead.

Re: Ford F-150 Lightning: Fast Truck, Slow Computer

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Post by vel0city »

_carbyau_ wrote: post #200
vel0city wrote: post #159

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So here's an example. It's over 100F outside, my car is probably 115F inside it at the moment. Setting my car to 70F inside instead of it's current 72F won't make it cool any faster. Even setting it to it's "LO" setting won't make it cool any faster. The AC compressor is either on or off. The car will set the fan speed to it's best possible speed to cool the car as fast as it can regardless of it being 72 or 70 or 68…

Alternately, I don't care about he speed of change. That blazing sun shining on you via radiation directly feels different than if the sky is overcast. I want to easily tweak the temp to account for my personal comfort . I don't care about the temp of the air except as an input to helping me be comfortable. I don't want to have to start and then sit in my car idling to wait until it gets to temp only to find out I wa…

I don't experience much difference. Low emissivity tinting does wonders to make you more comfortable. I even have glass roofs on my cars and it really doesn't make that much of a difference in comfort in my car.

On top of that, my cars also know how intense the sun is. It wouldn't surprise me if that's also an input to the climate control.

Re: Ford F-150 Lightning: Fast Truck, Slow Computer

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Post by ajross »

GoOnThenDoTell wrote: post #212
ajross wrote: post #144

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Have you driven a Tesla much? The general UX intent is that you're not supposed to need to interact with the screen while driving. Wipers are automatic, lights are automatic (both can be pulsed with the stalks of course). Virtually everything responds to voice commands ("Play Stairway to Heaven", "Navigate to Albertsons", "Set temperature to 72", etc...). All this stuff works really well. I won't engage with "what pe…

Voice control is terrible, I have to use a fake accent to get it to do anything, and even then its often flaky

Post a video and get famous.

Meh. I'm sure stuff doesn't work somewhere for someone. But... come on. Voice recognition is a long solved problem. Tesla's works as wells as Amazon's or Apple's or whoever's, which is to say sure, it makes an occasional mistake, but it basically isn't a problem except in arguments like this one on the internet. Mine works great. I love it and use it every day. I'm sorry yours doesn't, but at least you can sell your car for a profit and get one with buttons, so that's something.

Re: Ford F-150 Lightning: Fast Truck, Slow Computer

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Post by rkagerer »

speed_spread wrote: post #216
jonnybgood wrote: post #194

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Ford is not a tech company. > Most people in Europe don’t want to leave. I believe they're saying if European tech companies want to compete in business with US tech companies they need to pay their engineers more money.

> Ford is not a tech company. By their CEO's own admission, Ford sees itself as a "data company": https://www.autoblog.com/2016/01/06/ceo-mark-fields-ford-dat... Their software chops are certainly dubious, but there is no questioning their intent when it comes to entering the surveillance economy.

Ford sees itself as a "data company"

What a disaster. I wish they would focus on simply making good cars.

Re: Ford F-150 Lightning: Fast Truck, Slow Computer

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Post by vel0city »

kipchak wrote: post #181
vel0city wrote: post #159

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So here's an example. It's over 100F outside, my car is probably 115F inside it at the moment. Setting my car to 70F inside instead of it's current 72F won't make it cool any faster. Even setting it to it's "LO" setting won't make it cool any faster. The AC compressor is either on or off. The car will set the fan speed to it's best possible speed to cool the car as fast as it can regardless of it being 72 or 70 or 68…

Wouldn't it engage a heavier fan speed if there was a smaller disparity in temperature? For example if it's 75 in the car and I'd like it to be 72 turning the AC down to 70 would engage a heavier fan speed with the downside of increased noise, so practically I would cool down quicker by setting it to 70 and could then adjust back up to 72. But more practically, if I start catching a lot of sun from the window I might…

The car knows how intense the sun is. It has sensors to measure that. Coupled with some decent low emissive tint it's really not hard for it to handle such an idea.

I live in Texas. I assure you I live in an area with high heat and intense sun. My cars have glass roofs. My cars seem to handle it fine.

Re: Ford F-150 Lightning: Fast Truck, Slow Computer

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Post by LeoPanthera »

throwaway0a5e wrote: post #166
LeoPanthera wrote: post #39

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The "thin blue line" flag is used almost exclusively by the far-right, and more specifically by white supremacists. The flag on the Lightning isn't that flag, but it does resemble it.

The level of pro establishment sentiment that the thin blue line flag conveys precludes the person from being far anything.

That would be true if they were actually using it to indicate support for police. But they're not. You'll only find it next to MAGA and expletive-laden flags.

Re: Ford F-150 Lightning: Fast Truck, Slow Computer

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Post by samatman »

ubermonkey wrote: post #119

This is one of those things I'll never experience, and doubly so: I have no use for a truck (I live in a city), and I have never owned or wanted to own an American-made car. They're just all so _bad_.

Can we get a few more paragraphs about you? You sound interesting, obviously you like to talk about yourself, got another anecdote?
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