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Marc Andreessen slams new multi-family affordable housing

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Re: Marc Andreessen slams new multi-family affordable housing

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Just curious, has anyone asked Steph's opinion on building multi-family housing in Atherton?

"Whooosh!" replied Steph Curry.

No, I understood your comment. I'm just curious about Steph's opinion.

Re: Marc Andreessen slams new multi-family affordable housing

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If that's how you think, then at least I hope you're not writing massive essays asking (the rest of) the entire the nation to build more housing, even if it makes neighbourhoods ugly.

There's plenty of space in the US. Grow wide, not dense. It's good policy.

How is growing wide good policy?

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Socialist? Letting you build whatever you want on your own property is the spirit of capitalism. NIMBYs are the ones who want every town to be run by central planning.

Socialism doesn't even mean central planning either. Most socialists are just interested in, "everyone who wants a home should be able to get a home." Not necessarily a big fancy home with a three car garage, but somewhere they can call their own. Even if that means billionaires might lose some of their home value.

Sure, but targeted political messaging shouldn't be concerned with things like factual accuracy. The people who complain about socialists don't know any self-identified US socialists, since those Bernie-type people didn't exist before 2016.

Re: Marc Andreessen slams new multi-family affordable housing

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I think RHNA is an important measure to make sure communities like Atherton aren't allowed to externalize the cost of their lifestyle onto the rest of the Bay, but I think a land value tax coupled with dramatically liberalized zoning laws would be an even better solution.

That way, people who "don't want to see their community change" would be free to buy up land and pay the opportunity cost of not developing it. Society could use that revenue to either invest in the welfare state, or offset taxes for the rest of us.

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Sadly, this is all very predictably Bay Area progressive. Yes, I'll put up the BLM sign on my window, but no, you cannot build anything for the riffraff near my Victorian, we wouldn't want to endanger the historic character of this neighborhood.

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Re: Marc Andreessen slams new multi-family affordable housing

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How so? Ruining a nice town hurts more people than it helps

How does more housing ruin a town?

It's more the density that people object to, not more people, or more housing. It's when there's an area in the denominator. More density means more cars, more air pollution, more traffic, more noise. More accidents, more time searching for parking and standing in lines. It may not add up to ruin, but it's objectively worse.

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>“I am writing this letter to communicate our IMMENSE objection to the creation of multifamily overlay zones in Atherton,” wrote Andreessen and his wife Laura Arrillaga-Andreessen in an email. “Please IMMEDIATELY REMOVE all multifamily overlay zoning projects from the Housing Element which will be submitted to the state in July. They will MASSIVELY decrease our home values, the quality of life of ourselves and our ne…

I don’t understand why NIMBY hate is in vogue. What’s wrong with letting a nice town stay nice? We don’t need to turn everything to shit just to satiate socialist schadenfreude. Build it somewhere else

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How does more housing ruin a town?

Peopleperson is trying to dodge around saying they don't want to live near people who are lower income. Often this is a way of saying, "I don't want people with different ethnic, racial, or cultural backgrounds near me." It's pretty transparent discrimination, tbh.

I tried to respond to them constructively elsewhere, but this is the correct take so I'm just gonna agree with it.

Re: Marc Andreessen slams new multi-family affordable housing

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>Build it somewhere else Okay... _where_? Thats the whole point of why NIMBY is reviled. Not In My Back Yard.

If no one is saying YIMBY, does anyone really want it?

> does anyone really want it?

It's probably safe to assume the people who need affordable housing want it.

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