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Marc Andreessen slams new multi-family affordable housing

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Re: Marc Andreessen slams new multi-family affordable housing

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Post by VectorLock »

imapeopleperson wrote: post #11
helloworld11 wrote: post #6

>“I am writing this letter to communicate our IMMENSE objection to the creation of multifamily overlay zones in Atherton,” wrote Andreessen and his wife Laura Arrillaga-Andreessen in an email. “Please IMMEDIATELY REMOVE all multifamily overlay zoning projects from the Housing Element which will be submitted to the state in July. They will MASSIVELY decrease our home values, the quality of life of ourselves and our ne…

I don’t understand why NIMBY hate is in vogue. What’s wrong with letting a nice town stay nice? We don’t need to turn everything to shit just to satiate socialist schadenfreude. Build it somewhere else

>Build it somewhere else

Okay... _where_?

Thats the whole point of why NIMBY is reviled. Not In My Back Yard.

Re: Marc Andreessen slams new multi-family affordable housing

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Post by davidw »

mstipetic wrote: post #24
helloworld11 wrote: post #6

>“I am writing this letter to communicate our IMMENSE objection to the creation of multifamily overlay zones in Atherton,” wrote Andreessen and his wife Laura Arrillaga-Andreessen in an email. “Please IMMEDIATELY REMOVE all multifamily overlay zoning projects from the Housing Element which will be submitted to the state in July. They will MASSIVELY decrease our home values, the quality of life of ourselves and our ne…

I really don’t understand this mindset, shouldn’t you stop caring about money at a certain point? So what if one of your houses decreases in value, you’re set for life. Is it some weird money obsession/disease?

If you're fighting for market share with other companies... IDK, fair enough. If you're trying to stop people with way less money from having a place to live, that's just gross.

And it's false in any case according to some of the research I've seen. It's housing. For people. Not a sewage facility.

Re: Marc Andreessen slams new multi-family affordable housing

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Post by armadsen »

imapeopleperson wrote: post #11
helloworld11 wrote: post #6

>“I am writing this letter to communicate our IMMENSE objection to the creation of multifamily overlay zones in Atherton,” wrote Andreessen and his wife Laura Arrillaga-Andreessen in an email. “Please IMMEDIATELY REMOVE all multifamily overlay zoning projects from the Housing Element which will be submitted to the state in July. They will MASSIVELY decrease our home values, the quality of life of ourselves and our ne…

I don’t understand why NIMBY hate is in vogue. What’s wrong with letting a nice town stay nice? We don’t need to turn everything to shit just to satiate socialist schadenfreude. Build it somewhere else

It's not socialist to allow private entities to build the housing that the market demands on the land they own in order to make money. It's much closer to "socialist" to have state apparatus dictating that people not build housing.

I own and live in an 80-year old single family house. My neighborhood -- one of the more desirable ones in my city -- has had a massive ongoing build out of 3-5 story apartment buildings in the past 10 years. They don't bother me in the least. It's either that or people can't afford to live here, which seems bad.

Re: Marc Andreessen slams new multi-family affordable housing

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Post by wonnage »

golemotron wrote: post #28
t_mann wrote: post #15

Earlier quoted context omitted.

If that's how you think, then at least I hope you're not writing massive essays asking (the rest of) the entire the nation to build more housing, even if it makes neighbourhoods ugly.

There's plenty of space in the US. Grow wide, not dense. It's good policy.

urban sprawl is both economically and ecologically unsustainable

Re: Marc Andreessen slams new multi-family affordable housing

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Post by mbesto »

imapeopleperson wrote: post #11
helloworld11 wrote: post #6

>“I am writing this letter to communicate our IMMENSE objection to the creation of multifamily overlay zones in Atherton,” wrote Andreessen and his wife Laura Arrillaga-Andreessen in an email. “Please IMMEDIATELY REMOVE all multifamily overlay zoning projects from the Housing Element which will be submitted to the state in July. They will MASSIVELY decrease our home values, the quality of life of ourselves and our ne…

I don’t understand why NIMBY hate is in vogue. What’s wrong with letting a nice town stay nice? We don’t need to turn everything to shit just to satiate socialist schadenfreude. Build it somewhere else

> Build it somewhere else

Reminds me of a Ben Shapiro quote:

Let's say for the sake of argument that all of the water levels around the world rise by, let's say, five feet over the next 100 years. Say 10 feet over the next 100 years. And it puts all of the low-lying areas on the coast underwater. Let's say all of that happens. You think people aren't just going to sell their homes and move?

Re: Marc Andreessen slams new multi-family affordable housing

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Post by fasthands9 »

mstipetic wrote: post #24
helloworld11 wrote: post #6

>“I am writing this letter to communicate our IMMENSE objection to the creation of multifamily overlay zones in Atherton,” wrote Andreessen and his wife Laura Arrillaga-Andreessen in an email. “Please IMMEDIATELY REMOVE all multifamily overlay zoning projects from the Housing Element which will be submitted to the state in July. They will MASSIVELY decrease our home values, the quality of life of ourselves and our ne…

I really don’t understand this mindset, shouldn’t you stop caring about money at a certain point? So what if one of your houses decreases in value, you’re set for life. Is it some weird money obsession/disease?

I am a huge YIMBY but pretty sure he is stating arguments that he thinks will be compelling to the rest of the voters in his town. Most people their prob have net worths north of 10M - but entirely wrapped up in their property values.

Solution is to just not give local towns such strict control. Otherwise there is truly no incentive to allow building like this

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Post by spaetzleesser »

mstipetic wrote: post #24
helloworld11 wrote: post #6

>“I am writing this letter to communicate our IMMENSE objection to the creation of multifamily overlay zones in Atherton,” wrote Andreessen and his wife Laura Arrillaga-Andreessen in an email. “Please IMMEDIATELY REMOVE all multifamily overlay zoning projects from the Housing Element which will be submitted to the state in July. They will MASSIVELY decrease our home values, the quality of life of ourselves and our ne…

I really don’t understand this mindset, shouldn’t you stop caring about money at a certain point? So what if one of your houses decreases in value, you’re set for life. Is it some weird money obsession/disease?

"I really don’t understand this mindset, shouldn’t you stop caring about money at a certain point? "

You most likely will never get to that point if you aren't greedy and always look for your personal advantage.

Re: Marc Andreessen slams new multi-family affordable housing

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Post by PebblesHD »

I’ve never understood how some of these executives support the widening income and wealth gap developing in most of the modern world. Is it not incredibly short sighted to reduce the discretionary money available to your customers and price them out of living within commuting distance of the jobs you need filled?

Where I live, it’s so expensive to live anywhere near our major cities that I’m left wondering how the NIMBY classes who live there expect to get their morning coffees or their houses repaired when they’ve finished pricing any young people and trades out of a 50 mile radius from them…

Re: Marc Andreessen slams new multi-family affordable housing

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Post by washbrain »

AnonMessiah wrote: post #19
imapeopleperson wrote: post #14

Earlier quoted context omitted.

How so? Ruining a nice town hurts more people than it helps

How does more housing ruin a town?

Peopleperson is trying to dodge around saying they don't want to live near people who are lower income. Often this is a way of saying, "I don't want people with different ethnic, racial, or cultural backgrounds near me."

It's pretty transparent discrimination, tbh.

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