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Re: I hacked my car

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Hacking on a car is making the CEL turn off by tricking the computer into thinking the senors are correct with a resister you have wired inline in order to keep you $1k beater from `02 on the road. Reverting your car to a state where u can maintain it by keeping up its mechanical worthiness out of sync with the useless sensor after sensor that dies whos sole purpose it to allow idiots to drive cars and not burn them down.

Modern cars are literly just hyper-optimised consumer goods. Hyper optimised for warrenty periods and unskillly supply chains with no quality control or pride. modern cars are literly like going to a LAN party with a different personing bringing boxes that need to interact without failure. not happening. hackable to the hilt because pentesting cant be warrentied out.

Re: I hacked my car

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These articles make me think that we need EU regulations (I live in EU) which force automakers to implement standards which allow the owner to replace the entertainment unit in the car. This means cars and entertainment units should be decoupled and standardised. There should be a standardized electrical interface between the car and entertainment unit together with protocol used for communication. Also the physical specs should be standard together with automatic tests used to test that car and multimedia unit works as expected.

Re: I hacked my car

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I would be shocked if Hyundai wasn’t outsourcing most of its software development to the lowest bidder. Any company that believes its core business isn’t software will not pay for software developers.

...and the mechanic subs I follow do roast some mfrs for the info systems.

But it's clear that software is important to cars nowadays. I don't think any mfr fails to grasp that at some level. So presumably some will succeed to some degree; why not Hyundai?

The OP said that Hyundai partnered with nVidia - although I grant that the keyboard making could still have been done by a crappy code factory.

Re: I hacked my car

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post #23

The Mac address part stood out to me, has something changed over the year that made changing Mac addresses more complex? Back in college our school had some limitations on the internal networks in our dorms. After doing my normal stuff (you know mega downloading,ftp, limewire etc) my net stopped working. Come to find out they had a bandwidth monitor and would just block you for some time if you used too much and had…

Ha! We did the same thing on our campus to get around the bandwidth blocks. We had an internal file-sharing network (DC++) which wasn't restricted in any way since it was all internal traffic. In fact the server was run by one of the network admins...go figure. But, content has to come from somewhere outside the network, so I just kept a rotating list of about 20 randomly-generated MAC addresses to keep the pipe open at full speed. I mentioned I was doing this to a friend in the IT department at some point, and he said the university knew about the trick and that I should be careful, but nothing ever came of it.

In reality, the real rate-limit was my college budget and the price of hard drives, but it was all good fun.

Re: I hacked my car

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post #82

Most development at very large companies happens by hordes of people who call themselves developers but do not care about development and barely understand anything they are doing. Most coding happens by copying and pasting from Stack* and then restarting the application hundreds of times and tinkering with the code mindlessly until it happens to work. Anything besides getting the "happy path" (sic!) to work is a sec…

> most developers from Asia do not really expect or care about privacy and are super quick to drop any quality standards to meet deadlines You started a hellish, tedious flamewar with this. That's exactly what we're trying to avoid here. Please edit general putdowns, casual swipes, and flamebait out of your HN comments, and stick to what you can legitimately say from your own experience. https://news.ycombinator.com/…

Hi dang.

But this is my 22 years of experience in software development working for various companies from all over the world, including a number of companies in Asia.

I have experience working directly for about 30 companies and indirectly for about 50 companies.

I worked for a core security team for one of the largest phone makers from Korea. I don't want to name the company but when I say the actual privacy was not a huge concern this is actually my own experience working with them.

These are facts just like saying most Americans are overweight. You might not like it, but that does not change the fact.

Here, some more explanation about groups of people, facts, prejudice and racism: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=32480914

Re: I hacked my car

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post #74

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The point is that the statement “Asians value privacy less” doesn’t talk about “Asians” as a racial group, rather, it merely observes that for whatever historical/cultural/sociological reasons, a particular group of people, whom happen to live in a certain area of the globe, might be less predisposed to raise concerns about the privacy implications of their software engineering practices. Thus the claim that the orig…

I get your point, and I should have said "you did a prejudice there" instead of "you did a casual racism", because the OP's opinion did not express systemic oppression or a belief that (in this case) 'Asians' are inferior as a whole to other ethnicities. Thank you for giving me the opportunity to correct myself. That said, both the original post and several comments, including this comment's parent, are equally preju…

I am not actively thinking about "asians" in a racist way. For me this is a term that describes people coming from certain geographical background which is distinct from say "europeans" or "north americans" or "africans" or "indians" or "latinos".

It is useful term because all these groups come from different environment with a different history and all are distinct enough from other environments that it makes the name useful to describe certain things.

It does not mean that all asians or europeans are the same. Any thinking person understands that talking in general is useful to describe certain things but also understand there is much more subtlety and exceptions under every statement like that.

So we know that people from different backgrounds have different IQs, education or predisposition to different health issues. It is not racist, these are just statements of facts.

Racist is when you try to take these facts and paint them to discriminate or entice discrimination against people just for the fact they share same background.

So when I say that "asians typically care less for privacy" is a statement of fact. You have to contend with the fact that not all people around the world care about privacy the same way and the moment you do so you understand there are some identifiable groups of people that care less.

If I somehow did this to communicate that asians are somehow worth less as people because they care about privacy that would be racist. That would be coming as view of a person from a western country somehow telling that people who do not value same things as me are somehow worth less. Which is a stupid an narrow way of thinking about the world.

When I say "asians value privacy less" and you say "this is prejudice/racism against asians" what it really is is your racist brain. You are saying that your western values are better than values of people coming from some other region.

Part of being racist is being closed to the idea that other peoples have different values that aren't necessarily better or worse.

Re: I hacked my car

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post #82

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> most developers from Asia do not really expect or care about privacy and are super quick to drop any quality standards to meet deadlines You started a hellish, tedious flamewar with this. That's exactly what we're trying to avoid here. Please edit general putdowns, casual swipes, and flamebait out of your HN comments, and stick to what you can legitimately say from your own experience. https://news.ycombinator.com/…

Hi dang. But this is my 22 years of experience in software development working for various companies from all over the world, including a number of companies in Asia. I have experience working directly for about 30 companies and indirectly for about 50 companies. I worked for a core security team for one of the largest phone makers from Korea. I don't want to name the company but when I say the actual privacy was not…

Unless your 22 years of experience included observations of "most developers from Asia", then your comment went far beyond your experience in a way that was guaranteed to be provocative. It's hardly a borderline call to say that that is flamebait.

Flamebait with racial/ethnic/national generalization is just about the biggest provocation there is. It's bog-standard forum moderation to ask users not to do this. Please don't do it again.

https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html

Re: I hacked my car

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post #138

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Hi dang. But this is my 22 years of experience in software development working for various companies from all over the world, including a number of companies in Asia. I have experience working directly for about 30 companies and indirectly for about 50 companies. I worked for a core security team for one of the largest phone makers from Korea. I don't want to name the company but when I say the actual privacy was not…

Unless your 22 years of experience included observations of "most developers from Asia", then your comment went far beyond your experience in a way that was guaranteed to be provocative. It's hardly a borderline call to say that that is flamebait. Flamebait with racial/ethnic/national generalization is just about the biggest provocation there is. It's bog-standard forum moderation to ask users not to do this. Please…

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Re: I hacked my car

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post #50

Earlier quoted context omitted.

"most developers from Asia do not really expect or care about privacy" -> You did a casual racism there, unless you can back up your claim with non-anecdotal evidence.

It's a largely accurate statement

I forsee an attack on the anecdata element, and the definition of developer, which I will use the most common "linkedin" definition for - which is most people I have encountered support this statement
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