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Re: How to access Reddit without ads and tracking

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Reddit has declined so significantly in quality and (in particular) moderation that it's hard to get much out of it. I used it from the very beginning and now overall quality (both posts and comments) is as low as I can recall. Mods have ridiculous power over any users that actually participate in the comments and, in my opinion, the "weaponization" of moderator ability as well as of reddit's newer mod tools has gott…

The moderator issue has been a problem for a long time. You yourself may have only recently discovered it, but it's been a problem since subreddits have existed.

- There are groups of moderators that maintain lists and if you get on that list you're banned from umpteen different subreddits as a result. For example... I once had an /r/The_Donald post pop up in my main feed and I posted on it not even realizing what subreddit it was. Next thing I know I'm getting messaged from a dozen or more moderators of other subreddits telling me I've been banned for posting on /r/The_Donald. The sad part is I was disagreeing with what someone said, so I was effectively probably more in-line with these moderators than /r/The_Donald in particular.

- I've had moderators send me messages telling me I was getting put on such and such list and then watching myself get ban message after ban message from subreddits I didn't even know existed.

__REDDIT MODERATORS SHOULD GET BANNED FOR DOING THIS__ But they never will. This is what the reddit admin's are for (cross subreddit moderation). But having said that...

- I once had someone on /r/emulation start using other accounts to start responding to me in ways that strongly implied I was harassing them across subreddits. It was a _COMPLETE_ fabrication but that didn't stop a reddit admin from contacting me directly and threatening to give me a sitewide ban. There's no way this person did that randomly, I guarantee you it works and the only reason I avoided it was by contacting the general reddit admin team and pointing it out with all the evidence that I had had no interaction with these accounts in the past.

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There are also plenty of subreddits I've chosen not to frequent anymore due to either treatment of myself, treatment of others, or just general policy changes. Those include, but are not limited to:

/r/patientgamers /r/rpg_gamers /r/fitness /r/books

In particular, /r/patientgamers and /r/fitness make me sad. I enjoyed them until the moderators decided there needed to be a "woke agenda".

The /r/patientgamers moderator decided it was a good idea to declare to everyone how they would be banned unequivocally for discussions around LBTQ+ issues. I think it was around the broujaja of the Baldurs Gate 3 trans character, but I could be misremembering.

/r/fitness at one point decided they had to have a female moderator. The moderator absolutely had to be female and the sole reason this moderator was to enforce womens rights issues because men can't do it.

I left both w/i days and haven't been back to either. I understand a policy of banning people who step over a line, I don't understand a policy of hiring a moderator whose sole purpose is to look for and preemptively ban behavior that the person being responded to doesn't even think is problematic. And I've seen that happen, I've found myself defending someone who got moderatored for their response to me. If I'm the target of that response and even I don't think it's a problem, where's the problem?

/r/rpg_gamers brought on a mod who is just a dickhead, full stop.

/r/bedbugs banned me for posting a link to amazon, I posted it as a response to a someone giving a recommendation of a strategy to use. Another moderator contacted me a few months later to tell me that mod was a problem and they removed him.

There absolutely NEEDS to be a way for the community to protect itself from moderators.

Nowadays I don't really visit or post on reddit much. Too much noise anyway. I posted this mostly to point out that this isn't nearly a new problem.

Re: How to access Reddit without ads and tracking

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>without [...] tracking of the ios apps they listed: apollo: has anonymous analytics narwhal: has "Usage Data Advertising Data" under "Data Used to Track You" and "Data Linked to You", has anonymous analytics/usage/crash logs, and uses your device id not exactly escaping much tracking here.

Apollo can have analytics disabled. Any 3rd party client defeats ad engagement tracking. You can curl their API yourself and you have defeated tracking. If the client isn't serving ads, like Apollo and Tweetbot, there isn't any engagement to track. It's limited to what you interact with while logged in. This is how every service works. The analytics for 3rd party clients are purely for the developer to improve their…

Can you please explain how to turn off Apollo analytics? Thanks.

Re: How to access Reddit without ads and tracking

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The egg_irl post you picked. Sigh. Picking apart meme content and comments is stupid. But sure, lets do this to support this 'child grooming' nonsense transphobic discussion. What you're criticizing isn't someone making a major life decision based on feedback from internet strangers. Its a person who has made a major life decision reflecting and joking about the experience in a space assumed to be for trans people tr…

Whether or not this is considered "grooming" is irrelevant. The truth is that only in the past 4-5 years has it started becoming commonplace for the medical establishment to provide "gender-affirming" care (aka irreversible via surgery or puberty blockers), if my child has the slightest suspicion that they, too, are one of the tiny percentage of intersex/trans people. And if that were the case, and I refused to recog…

I too worry about the trend of pushing children too soon into transgenderism and especially chemical induced changes.

OTOH, calling it grooming is out of line and I personally get really tired of people trying to appropriate negative words to further their own personal agenda. It's possible to disagree without calling it grooming.

If this is grooming, then so is teaching a child that loyalty and trustworthiness are important. It's grooming in only the most technical sense, which is not what that word means in common vernacular.

The people involved in this are earnest in wanting to prevent harm (albeit misguided imo), an actual groomer is someone who is purposefully shaping a person so as to __cause__ harm.

Re: How to access Reddit without ads and tracking

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

The egg_irl post you picked. Sigh. Picking apart meme content and comments is stupid. But sure, lets do this to support this 'child grooming' nonsense transphobic discussion. What you're criticizing isn't someone making a major life decision based on feedback from internet strangers. Its a person who has made a major life decision reflecting and joking about the experience in a space assumed to be for trans people tr…

I don't see how it's "transphobic" to acknowledge that transitioning is an attempted solution to a mental disorder that we should not be appearing to encourage people in. There is a difference between being accepting, kind, and equal in treatment towards trans people, and encouraging it with young people. It really is a different subject than "mere" sexuality.

> transitioning is an attempted solution to a mental disorder

It is not a mental disorder, APA updated guidance and removed it from the DSM in 2012[1]. Though gender dysphoria caused by being trans is. That's an important distinction; you aren't trans because something is wrong with you and being trans isn't something that's wrong with you.

> that we should not be appearing to encourage people in.

Is being trans something that can be encouraged in non-trans people? Not a single cis person that I know (when asked) has ever said they'd thought they might be a different gender. Didn't even cross their minds. And after being asked about it for 2 seconds they all instantly responded "no, definitely NOT trans", without hesitation.

> There is a difference between being accepting, kind, and equal in treatment towards trans people, and encouraging it with young people.

I appreciate that you emphasized accepting, kind, and equal in treatment here. But a few thoughts:

- When does a person go from encourage-able young person to fully fledged trans-person? Who draws that line?

- This sounds a bit like making young trans people go through a discouraging crucible and if they grow up to be trans it must be true. Which just sounds like a way to guarantee that trans people have terrible child hoods.

- Despite your phrasing, in the context of the rest of your post, it sounds more like you're willing to humor trans-people than truly considering them valid. (If I'm wrong, sorry and ignore) If that's the case, thank you for prioritizing treating people well, but trans people are valid. They don't need people to humor them, they need people to just believe what they say about their own bodies.

1. https://nicic.gov/being-transgender-no-longer-mental-disorde...

Re: How to access Reddit without ads and tracking

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

The egg_irl post you picked. Sigh. Picking apart meme content and comments is stupid. But sure, lets do this to support this 'child grooming' nonsense transphobic discussion. What you're criticizing isn't someone making a major life decision based on feedback from internet strangers. Its a person who has made a major life decision reflecting and joking about the experience in a space assumed to be for trans people tr…

Whether or not this is considered "grooming" is irrelevant. The truth is that only in the past 4-5 years has it started becoming commonplace for the medical establishment to provide "gender-affirming" care (aka irreversible via surgery or puberty blockers), if my child has the slightest suspicion that they, too, are one of the tiny percentage of intersex/trans people. And if that were the case, and I refused to recog…

> Whether or not this is considered "grooming" is irrelevant.

It isn't irrelevant if people are using the word grooming to sensationalize the discussion and bias it towards being terrified of the 'trans epidemic/agenda'.

> if my child has the slightest suspicion that they, too, are one of the tiny percentage of intersex/trans people

That is not how any of this works. Someone doesn't go on puberty blockers or get Hormone Therapy because they have 'the slightest suspicion'. If you say to a Dr "I think I might be trans", they don't schedule you for any gender-affirming care. They'd refer you to a therapist so you can work through that (and no, the therapist isn't going to talk you INTO being trans, again, not how that works, far more likely to try to talk you OUT of being trans).

> And if that were the case, and I refused to recognize one of my child's weekly fantasies (he likes to pretend to be a cat, but we don't take _that_ seriously)

Pretending to be a cat and being trans are not comparable.

I would hope as a parent you can distinguish between these weekly fantasies and serious thoughts, feelings, and questions that your child is having about who they are.

> I would be considered a toxic and "transphobic" parent

Yeah... If your kid tells you something big (and potentially to them shameful/scary) about themselves (whatever it is) and you brush it off, that would be kind of toxic and shitty.

> That these medical procedures and gender "counseling" could provided to my child without my input or approval (in the name of "safe spaces") should be alarming to most parents.

In all states, minors who seek transgender treatment need parental consent.

> We need to understand what's going on in our schools and with our children before we smear people with this "transphobia" neologism, because it's not productive nor conducive to discussion.

I agree that this is a complex topic that requires us to have thoughtful in depth discussions, one way to do that is to stop spreading Fear, Uncertainty, and Doubt you pulled from a book full of cherry-picked anecdotal stories designed to spread FUD.

Re: How to access Reddit without ads and tracking

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Whether or not this is considered "grooming" is irrelevant. The truth is that only in the past 4-5 years has it started becoming commonplace for the medical establishment to provide "gender-affirming" care (aka irreversible via surgery or puberty blockers), if my child has the slightest suspicion that they, too, are one of the tiny percentage of intersex/trans people. And if that were the case, and I refused to recog…

> Whether or not this is considered "grooming" is irrelevant. It isn't irrelevant if people are using the word grooming to sensationalize the discussion and bias it towards being terrified of the 'trans epidemic/agenda'. > if my child has the slightest suspicion that they, too, are one of the tiny percentage of intersex/trans people That is not how any of this works. Someone doesn't go on puberty blockers or get Horm…

> That is not how any of this works. Someone doesn't go on puberty blockers or get Hormone Therapy because they have 'the slightest suspicion'. If you say to a Dr "I think I might be trans", they don't schedule you for any gender-affirming care. They'd refer you to a therapist so you can work through that (and no, the therapist isn't going to talk you INTO being trans, again, not how that works, far more likely to try to talk you OUT of being trans).

I'm afraid that's not true, or not true anymore. Last year, via SB 5889, Washington Democrats forced insurers to cover gender dysmorphia treatment and gender-affirming care for minors between 13 and 17, without parental consent. It mandates that insurers deal directly with the patient without requiring the policyholder’s authorization. The same is true in all states except for 4 red states. [1]

Yes, if my child were serious about transitioning, we'd talk about it. But if my child is being encouraged to talk about his gender in his 3rd-grade class, which is weird and another problem in itself, that's not the same thing.

So why is it the case that "People who are aged 18 to 24 are more likely to identify as transgender"? [2] For many of the girls in Shapiro's book, the gender craze is an unhealthy mental preoccupation, who encounter support sites on Tumblr which encourage young girls to question their gender identities and celebrates "transitioning". The concern is that the number of people transitioning due to social pressure _massively_ exceeds those who legitimately need to transition.

What's odd is that it's unacceptable to encourage kids _not_ to transition.

[1]: https://mynorthwest.com/3296653/rantz-washington-laws-permit... [2]: https://worldpopulationreview.com/state-rankings/transgender...

Re: How to access Reddit without ads and tracking

#57

When Reddit goes public and everyone EXCEPT the subreddit moderators make millions/billions, I wonder how long Reddit will stay around for? It’s the subreddits and the moderators that make what Reddit is today, and they are the ones that do all the hard work and yet somehow they are the only ones that won’t profit from an IPO.

Well, users upload content to FB /TickTock which are then monetized and the users don't get any money. So it is like that for almost all web 2.0 companies

Yes they can definitely monetize their followers.

Re: How to access Reddit without ads and tracking

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

> Whether or not this is considered "grooming" is irrelevant. It isn't irrelevant if people are using the word grooming to sensationalize the discussion and bias it towards being terrified of the 'trans epidemic/agenda'. > if my child has the slightest suspicion that they, too, are one of the tiny percentage of intersex/trans people That is not how any of this works. Someone doesn't go on puberty blockers or get Horm…

> That is not how any of this works. Someone doesn't go on puberty blockers or get Hormone Therapy because they have 'the slightest suspicion'. If you say to a Dr "I think I might be trans", they don't schedule you for any gender-affirming care. They'd refer you to a therapist so you can work through that (and no, the therapist isn't going to talk you INTO being trans, again, not how that works, far more likely to tr…

> I'm afraid that's not true, or not true anymore. Last year, via SB 5889, Washington Democrats forced insurers to cover gender dysmorphia treatment and gender-affirming care for minors between 13 and 17, without parental consent. It mandates that insurers deal directly with the patient without requiring the policyholder’s authorization.

I had seen references to SB 5889, though not many places other than the article you linked really discussing it.

Importantly, I don't think this is worrying. You jumped to addressing my statement that all states require parental consent (which, based on SB 5889, was wrong), but didn't address that Drs aren't giving children Gender-Affirming Care based on the 'slightest suspicion'. Even if there are isolated instances, I DO NOT see that happening broadly or epidemically. In fact, the medical community (to the detriment of all parties involved) is still very much BEHIND on dealing with trans patients. (Though getting better with WPATH etc).

> The same is true in all states except for 4 red states.

I searched the article you linked and that didn't seem to be included. I can't find evidence of 46 states allowing GAC without parental consent. Further, 15+ states are looking at passing laws BANNING GAC WITH parental consent and that's just not acceptable and seems counter to this fact.

> talk about his gender in his 3rd-grade class

What do you mean talk about his gender? When I was in 3rd grade we talked about boys and girls a lot.

Or do you mean talk about trans / non-binary people? Because you want to shield your child from the existence of people?

> So why is it the case that "People who are aged 18 to 24 are more likely to identify as transgender"?

Acceptance? LGBTQ identification has also risen over time with acceptance. It turns out that if people discourage you and tell you that what you are is disgusting, people tend not to publicly identify with it?

These aren't trans people being created, they're trans people finally identifying themselves. And it is more noticeable in younger generations because they haven't built an entire life around themselves.

> For many of the girls in Shapiro's book, the gender craze is an unhealthy mental preoccupation, who encounter support sites on Tumblr which encourage young girls to question their gender identities and celebrates "transitioning". The concern is that the number of people transitioning due to social pressure _massively_ exceeds those who legitimately need to transition.

I assume you mean the book you linked previously? I'm not going to comment or speculate on anecdata. For those girls it might have been tough to navigate and I feel for them, that doesn't mean it is an epidemic, it just means the book alleges its an epidemic.

The assertion that the number of people now identifying as trans/non-binary "_massively_ exceeds those who legitimately need transition", isn't born out by current evidence, seems potentially explained by acceptance, and seems very akin to the shock people had at how many people were LGB when that started gaining acceptance (and the idea of being gay because you thought it was cool).

> What's odd is that it's unacceptable to encourage kids _not_ to transition.

I don't know what to say if you earnestly think that's the minority view. It isn't. Which is why being trans sucks...

As I said before (then flippantly, now more seriously), yes this is a complicated topic made more so by the discussion of children and transition. But sensationalizing, fear-mongering, and irrationally banning things because technically my kid COULD (with a shitty dr and a slight suggestion) get GAC is just going to make things worse.

Re: How to access Reddit without ads and tracking

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Apollo can have analytics disabled. Any 3rd party client defeats ad engagement tracking. You can curl their API yourself and you have defeated tracking. If the client isn't serving ads, like Apollo and Tweetbot, there isn't any engagement to track. It's limited to what you interact with while logged in. This is how every service works. The analytics for 3rd party clients are purely for the developer to improve their…

Can you please explain how to turn off Apollo analytics? Thanks.

Looking at the privacy policy, i only noticed "anonymous crash reporting and analytics".

That's easily switched off via Settings > About > Crash Reporting & Analytics.

Edit: looking at the explanation below the On/Off switch, it seems this does provide analytics - "most commonly used features". So, turn it off...

Re: How to access Reddit without ads and tracking

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Not to mention an entire subreddit dedicated to refining Meth. https://old.reddit.com/r/BabyBees/

Lol. There are a few chemistry for the sake of drug subs. Judging by the level of discussion though, there aren't a lot of people who really know what they're doing. Most drug production involves some pretty advanced chemistry
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