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American Airlines agrees to purchase Boom Supersonic Overture aircraft

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Re: American Airlines agrees to purchase Boom Supersonic Overture aircraft

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Post by stuff4ben »

replygirl wrote: post #75
cjrp wrote: post #32

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Turbofan (what's on most commercial jet aircraft), not turboprop (jet engine driving a propeller, generally on smaller commercial and some private aircraft).

ah, neat! looks like they recently switched from 3x turboprop to 4x turbofan edit: had to correlate sources to find that a bunch of popular aviation blogs got the original design wrong. was actually 3x turbofan -> 4x turbofan

it was never a turbo prop. You'll never get a propeller driven aircraft to supersonic speeds.

Re: American Airlines agrees to purchase Boom Supersonic Overture aircraft

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Post by ominous_prime »

replygirl wrote: post #75
cjrp wrote: post #32

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Turbofan (what's on most commercial jet aircraft), not turboprop (jet engine driving a propeller, generally on smaller commercial and some private aircraft).

ah, neat! looks like they recently switched from 3x turboprop to 4x turbofan edit: had to correlate sources to find that a bunch of popular aviation blogs got the original design wrong. was actually 3x turbofan -> 4x turbofan

Not sure what you were thinking of, but they were never planning on a turboprop since that's not really possible.

Re: American Airlines agrees to purchase Boom Supersonic Overture aircraft

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Post by jackmott42 »

JohnJamesRambo wrote: post #36
cma wrote: post #20

Earlier quoted context omitted.

How are they doing this with sustainable energy?

Can someone do the math on how much sustainable energy we would be wasting so people could get somewhere faster than a normal plane?

Wind resistance is supra linear naturally, but its also a more aerodynamic plane than a normal one, but also carries less passengers.

Its prolly something like 5x-10x worse.

Re: American Airlines agrees to purchase Boom Supersonic Overture aircraft

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Post by samstave »

alphabetting wrote: post #3

Overture is being designed to carry 65 to 80 passengers at Mach 1.7 over water — or twice the speed of today’s fastest commercial aircraft — with a range of 4,250 nautical miles. Optimized for speed, safety and sustainability, Overture is also being designed to fly more than 600 routes around the world in as little as half the time. Flying from Miami to London in just under five hours and Los Angeles to Honolulu in t…

>Probably will be very expensive but it's exciting for future possibilities

Are you kidding me! I cant recall the last time I DIDN'T need to be in Honolulu in THREE HOURS!! This is a life changer for my Macadamia nut Addiction...

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In all seriousness, the best commercial prospect for this is high-speed-cargo.

Need a part from GuangZhu like TODAY?

Need an organ transplant from Ohio to Munich, TODAY?

Need to fire 900 employees via ZOOM call whilst flying to your other mansions to feed your pet slaves, TODAY?

Possibilities are boundless!

Re: American Airlines agrees to purchase Boom Supersonic Overture aircraft

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Post by rtpg »

cjrp wrote: post #47
ISL wrote: post #24

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Rich people value time highly. Coach-class that gets you somewhere quickly can be worth a lot more than first-class that takes twice as long.

It's true, and makes sense where your face-to-face time is the key thing. But where it's just "work time", surely you can do a good amount of work on a 7 hour flight in a decent business class seat with reliable internet? Especially if you can also minimise the time wasted on the ground (fast security line, lounge with areas to work, airline calling your flight when it's almost finished boarding not at the start, etc…

There are definitely people who can get work done in a flight, but honestly I have a hard time imagining logging 7 hours. Maybe if you have a lot of reading to do?

Re: American Airlines agrees to purchase Boom Supersonic Overture aircraft

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Post by tantalor »

replygirl wrote: post #88
replygirl wrote: post #75

Earlier quoted context omitted.

ah, neat! looks like they recently switched from 3x turboprop to 4x turbofan edit: had to correlate sources to find that a bunch of popular aviation blogs got the original design wrong. was actually 3x turbofan -> 4x turbofan

why the downvotes? the original design was trying to use 3x turboprops, and i can see articles on google about them switching to 4x turbofans after the xb-1 work edit: see parent edit, i was wrong. you guys are pretty good at making someone with misinfo feel bad though

Share the links?

Re: American Airlines agrees to purchase Boom Supersonic Overture aircraft

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Post by hef19898 »

HPsquared wrote: post #70

Boom is quite the name for such a speculative business. What's next, Bubble Airships Inc? (Luxury cruises, the slow route). They could also have a side business in submarine expeditions.

I'll offer Iceberg Cruise Ships Inc. free of charge.

Re: American Airlines agrees to purchase Boom Supersonic Overture aircraft

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Post by cjrp »

petesergeant wrote: post #71
cjrp wrote: post #56

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American would swap this in for a plane which is using an existing takeoff/landing slot. Heathrow is also passenger-capacity-constrained right now, but that's more to do with understaffing.

> American would swap this in for a plane which is using an existing takeoff/landing slot Have to be charging a great deal to the small number of passengers for it to be worth swapping in to a fully loaded 777 spot

Very true; I think the Overture is meant to be 50-55 seats? If so that's basically just the First/Business cabin of an American 777-300. If each of those 55 seats are paying a premium on top of sub-sonic business class, maybe that's enough to "lose" the remaining ~240 seats.

Edit: Apparently Overture is 65-88 seats depending on configuration.

Re: American Airlines agrees to purchase Boom Supersonic Overture aircraft

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Post by ksec »

ISL wrote: post #24
akmarinov wrote: post #16

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Not only very expensive, but basically coach class all the way through, even for the rich people.

Rich people value time highly. Coach-class that gets you somewhere quickly can be worth a lot more than first-class that takes twice as long.

Makes me wonder if BOOM will ever enter the private jet market.

Re: American Airlines agrees to purchase Boom Supersonic Overture aircraft

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Post by Ekaros »

skellera wrote: post #64

If Boom is able to come out with a new supersonic aircraft, is it possible for a startup to compete with Boeing or Airbus in subsonic aircraft? Either coming up with a new design or another innovation that can compete. Or, are those companies pretty much set with impassable moats?

I think there is some questions of them being able to scale up the production.

But Boeing and Airbus aren't invisible if you are offering a product they don't sell. See A220 with somewhere 220+ units sold. It did end up in hands of Airbus, but it was effort by Bombardier.

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