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Apple becomes first tech giant to explicitly ban caste discrimination

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Re: Apple becomes first tech giant to explicitly ban caste discrimination

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Post by mcv »

FlyingSnake wrote: post #112
FactolSarin wrote: post #41

Out of curiosity, for Indians working in America, how hard is it to hide your caste or pretend to be of another caste altogether? Is this something that comes up in conversation among Indians? Do names tend to correlate to you caste? And if so, do people change them as a way of hiding their family caste?

There are various caste markers that casteist people use to identify the caste of the other person. Some of them include food preferences, accents (yes Indian languages also have different accents). I have seen that people can be casteist on both ends of a spectrum and it’s really hard to tell what marker of yours will be noted by the other party. I’ve seen that most people these days don’t try to pretend about hidin…

Food preferences? What if you happen to prefer food from a different caste?

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Post by hurril »

causi wrote: post #138
rockyj wrote: post #71

Just to spread awareness on how evil and ingrained this system is (this is from yesterday) - https://indianexpress.com/article/cities/jaipur/rajasthan-we...

Teacher beats their son to death and then offers them three grand. Jesus christ.

Ugh, this makes me genuinely... I was going to say sad, but... I don't think I have a word for this.

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Post by strikelaserclaw »

greatpostman wrote: post #12

looks the other way when Indian director has all Indian SDMs reporting to him It’s all lip service. Nepotism is rampant at FAANG

its cause indian managers can have fiefdoms with other indians under them. total power.

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wobbleblob wrote: post #106
FactolSarin wrote: post #41

Out of curiosity, for Indians working in America, how hard is it to hide your caste or pretend to be of another caste altogether? Is this something that comes up in conversation among Indians? Do names tend to correlate to you caste? And if so, do people change them as a way of hiding their family caste?

I thought people lose their caste when they cross the "black water".

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Post by mmmpop »

colechristensen wrote: post #119
greatpostman wrote: post #12

looks the other way when Indian director has all Indian SDMs reporting to him It’s all lip service. Nepotism is rampant at FAANG

Having done many interviews around silicon valley, the demographics of companies definitely seem very ... themed. Not necessarily monochromatic for a particular ethnic group, but a small set of ethic groups usually overwhelmingly represented. And at that, this wasn't a thing that seemed particularly biased towards one theme.

Maybe not the exact place for this, but after a few years of working with "near-shore" development groups in Latin America, I can't believe how white the leadership is. For all who think the US is #1 awful place for non-White folks, just look at Brazil.

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Post by hef19898 »

paxys wrote: post #125
yardie wrote: post #69

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I'm not Indian American my origins are Caribbean but I have some Indian origins and can offer a few answers from my experience. > Is this something that comes up in conversation among Indians? It starts casually with "where are you from?" and the questions get more invasive. > Do names tend to correlate to you caste? In India, yes it does family name is derived from caste. I had some friends adopt English names to ge…

> I had some friends adopt English names to get from under their caste names. So quite a few Johnsons, Smiths, Matthews, Pauls out there. There is an interesting history behind this. When Christian missionaries first arrived in India to spread their religion (in the late 1700s/1800s) they were initially unable to make much progress, but then found success among lower caste Indians by promising them a life of equality…

If I remember correctly, Sikhs are standing outside the caste system as well.

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Post by tunap »

HidyBush wrote: post #66
briandear wrote: post #53

Earlier quoted context omitted.

"Conservative" doesn't mean "racist." There are racists of all political and social backgrounds. Some of the most racist people I've met have been very "liberal."

Where have I implied that "conservative" means "racist"? If they meant the same to me I could have just written "conservative" instead of specifying "racist"

Or, perhaps you could have just stated 'racist'. You did not, you explicitly named 'conservative racists'. If you goal is to be an unbiased actor, try thinking about it from both extreme biases for a thought experiment, then find your center. Or stay biased-not-biased.

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Post by lovecg »

ajsnigrutin wrote: post #135
shapefrog wrote: post #117

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Wouldnt it be nice. Or are you suggesting that some races / genders / etc are better at some things than others?

> Or are you suggesting that some races / genders / etc are better at some things than others? Aren't they? Women are worse at pretty much every sport than men, and NBA teams are very far away from average racial representation in general population. Even with non-physical activities, asians are overrepresented in many technical areas, and there were/are even lawsuits [0] about discriminating asians in favour of othe…

The flaw with this argument is that all the possibly reasonable examples of differences you mention don’t imply that all other observed differences are benign and there’s nothing to be done.
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