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American Airlines agrees to purchase Boom Supersonic Overture aircraft

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Re: American Airlines agrees to purchase Boom Supersonic Overture aircraft

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Overture is being designed to carry 65 to 80 passengers at Mach 1.7 over water — or twice the speed of today’s fastest commercial aircraft — with a range of 4,250 nautical miles. Optimized for speed, safety and sustainability, Overture is also being designed to fly more than 600 routes around the world in as little as half the time. Flying from Miami to London in just under five hours and Los Angeles to Honolulu in t…

How are they doing this with sustainable energy?

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Re: American Airlines agrees to purchase Boom Supersonic Overture aircraft

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Overture is being designed to carry 65 to 80 passengers at Mach 1.7 over water — or twice the speed of today’s fastest commercial aircraft — with a range of 4,250 nautical miles. Optimized for speed, safety and sustainability, Overture is also being designed to fly more than 600 routes around the world in as little as half the time. Flying from Miami to London in just under five hours and Los Angeles to Honolulu in t…

it's all turboprops and no afterburner. so, expensive, but much more affordable than concorde, maybe to the point of competing with subsonic first class

Turbofan (what's on most commercial jet aircraft), not turboprop (jet engine driving a propeller, generally on smaller commercial and some private aircraft).

Re: American Airlines agrees to purchase Boom Supersonic Overture aircraft

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Curious how the combination of remote work, videoconferencing, and the really luxurious business class / first class on sub-mach aircraft will compare to this. This is slower and smaller than concorde, so we'll see if the market really values speed over convenience / luxury. Boeing made the opposite decision 20 years ago when they cancelled the sonic cruiser.

I'm pretty sure a Europe-Australia line that doesn't take two days with 3 layovers would sell like hotcakes regardless of accommodations.

Re: American Airlines agrees to purchase Boom Supersonic Overture aircraft

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How is the fuel efficiency of these? They go faster, but I assume they would also fly higher where the air is thinner. Does it cancel out?

Adding to the supersonic questions - how will they deal with the sonic booms? I assume they're still banned over land, which significantly adds to travel time?

They will deal with the sonic booms the same way that Condorde did: by flying over water.

Re: American Airlines agrees to purchase Boom Supersonic Overture aircraft

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Overture is being designed to carry 65 to 80 passengers at Mach 1.7 over water — or twice the speed of today’s fastest commercial aircraft — with a range of 4,250 nautical miles. Optimized for speed, safety and sustainability, Overture is also being designed to fly more than 600 routes around the world in as little as half the time. Flying from Miami to London in just under five hours and Los Angeles to Honolulu in t…

How are they doing this with sustainable energy?

Can someone do the math on how much sustainable energy we would be wasting so people could get somewhere faster than a normal plane?

Re: American Airlines agrees to purchase Boom Supersonic Overture aircraft

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Not only very expensive, but basically coach class all the way through, even for the rich people.

Rich people value time highly. Coach-class that gets you somewhere quickly can be worth a lot more than first-class that takes twice as long.

Also sanity. I’ve done a 16 hour flight before, and let me say never again. I slept for half of it and the other half was still miserable.

Re: American Airlines agrees to purchase Boom Supersonic Overture aircraft

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>American has paid a non-refundable deposit on the initial 20 aircraft. I guess that's not nothing given how these sorts of contracts usually give the big name brand company lots of outs if the speculative company goes bust, but by bragging about it without specifying the amount, I'm guessing it's a low amount.

Companies love low cost R&D that doubles as low cost marketing!

Also I'm assuming it is hard to do this kind of project internally because it seems so cool. A lot of employees would be upset if they were not allowed to take part.

Re: American Airlines agrees to purchase Boom Supersonic Overture aircraft

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Strong FOMO settling in. Premium transatlantic routes routes like NYC-LHR are super important to the bottom line of the big legacy carriers. If one airline has supersonic and others don’t that could be a huge blow to the others. Of course things didn’t work out that way with Concorde, which was not commercially successful and more of a spectacle than something founded in business fundamentals. But if Boom can make su…

Concorde also didn't work out for management reasons and generated most revenue right before retirement when they they finally lowered ticket prices and stopped flying them half empty like the absolute idiots they were.

Really? I thought it was exactly the other way around: Concorde was initially underpriced, and only started making money once pricing was yanked up to what the market would bear.

Re: American Airlines agrees to purchase Boom Supersonic Overture aircraft

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Overture is being designed to carry 65 to 80 passengers at Mach 1.7 over water — or twice the speed of today’s fastest commercial aircraft — with a range of 4,250 nautical miles. Optimized for speed, safety and sustainability, Overture is also being designed to fly more than 600 routes around the world in as little as half the time. Flying from Miami to London in just under five hours and Los Angeles to Honolulu in t…

How are they doing this with sustainable energy?

https://www.iata.org/en/programs/environment/sustainable-avi...

I wonder if designing for synthetic fuels gives them any benefits? They can be a little bit purer.

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