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American Airlines agrees to purchase Boom Supersonic Overture aircraft

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Re: American Airlines agrees to purchase Boom Supersonic Overture aircraft

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Post by replygirl »

alphabetting wrote: post #3

Overture is being designed to carry 65 to 80 passengers at Mach 1.7 over water — or twice the speed of today’s fastest commercial aircraft — with a range of 4,250 nautical miles. Optimized for speed, safety and sustainability, Overture is also being designed to fly more than 600 routes around the world in as little as half the time. Flying from Miami to London in just under five hours and Los Angeles to Honolulu in t…

it's all turboprops and no afterburner. so, expensive, but much more affordable than concorde, maybe to the point of competing with subsonic first class

Re: American Airlines agrees to purchase Boom Supersonic Overture aircraft

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Post by nikhizzle »

alphabetting wrote: post #3

Overture is being designed to carry 65 to 80 passengers at Mach 1.7 over water — or twice the speed of today’s fastest commercial aircraft — with a range of 4,250 nautical miles. Optimized for speed, safety and sustainability, Overture is also being designed to fly more than 600 routes around the world in as little as half the time. Flying from Miami to London in just under five hours and Los Angeles to Honolulu in t…

Interesting that this is slower that the Concord which cruised at Mach 2. I wonder if a slightly lower speed makes the economics more sustainable.

Re: American Airlines agrees to purchase Boom Supersonic Overture aircraft

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Post by wahnfrieden »

cma wrote: post #20
alphabetting wrote: post #3

Overture is being designed to carry 65 to 80 passengers at Mach 1.7 over water — or twice the speed of today’s fastest commercial aircraft — with a range of 4,250 nautical miles. Optimized for speed, safety and sustainability, Overture is also being designed to fly more than 600 routes around the world in as little as half the time. Flying from Miami to London in just under five hours and Los Angeles to Honolulu in t…

How are they doing this with sustainable energy?

stupid lip service

Re: American Airlines agrees to purchase Boom Supersonic Overture aircraft

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Post by ISL »

akmarinov wrote: post #16
alphabetting wrote: post #3

Overture is being designed to carry 65 to 80 passengers at Mach 1.7 over water — or twice the speed of today’s fastest commercial aircraft — with a range of 4,250 nautical miles. Optimized for speed, safety and sustainability, Overture is also being designed to fly more than 600 routes around the world in as little as half the time. Flying from Miami to London in just under five hours and Los Angeles to Honolulu in t…

Not only very expensive, but basically coach class all the way through, even for the rich people.

Rich people value time highly. Coach-class that gets you somewhere quickly can be worth a lot more than first-class that takes twice as long.

Re: American Airlines agrees to purchase Boom Supersonic Overture aircraft

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Post by chrisseaton »

akmarinov wrote: post #16
alphabetting wrote: post #3

Overture is being designed to carry 65 to 80 passengers at Mach 1.7 over water — or twice the speed of today’s fastest commercial aircraft — with a range of 4,250 nautical miles. Optimized for speed, safety and sustainability, Overture is also being designed to fly more than 600 routes around the world in as little as half the time. Flying from Miami to London in just under five hours and Los Angeles to Honolulu in t…

Not only very expensive, but basically coach class all the way through, even for the rich people.

> coach class all the way

Has there been a render of the interior or something?

Re: American Airlines agrees to purchase Boom Supersonic Overture aircraft

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Post by nradov »

JCM9 wrote: post #11

Strong FOMO settling in. Premium transatlantic routes routes like NYC-LHR are super important to the bottom line of the big legacy carriers. If one airline has supersonic and others don’t that could be a huge blow to the others. Of course things didn’t work out that way with Concorde, which was not commercially successful and more of a spectacle than something founded in business fundamentals. But if Boom can make su…

LHR is capacity constrained right now so they don't have slots to add more flights. Hopefully the runway expansion will be finished by the time Boom airliners are actually in service.

Re: American Airlines agrees to purchase Boom Supersonic Overture aircraft

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Post by bombcar »

gbronner wrote: post #6

Curious how the combination of remote work, videoconferencing, and the really luxurious business class / first class on sub-mach aircraft will compare to this. This is slower and smaller than concorde, so we'll see if the market really values speed over convenience / luxury. Boeing made the opposite decision 20 years ago when they cancelled the sonic cruiser.

So we can kind of rough it out - improving speed will make fuel costs go up (but how much?) but other fixed costs will go down (pilot time, airframe time, etc).

However you may also be stuck where the people who will pay for the faster time are the types who will NOT sit in cattle class, so your airplane will have to mainly be first-class/business style seating.

Re: American Airlines agrees to purchase Boom Supersonic Overture aircraft

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Post by replygirl »

cma wrote: post #20
alphabetting wrote: post #3

Overture is being designed to carry 65 to 80 passengers at Mach 1.7 over water — or twice the speed of today’s fastest commercial aircraft — with a range of 4,250 nautical miles. Optimized for speed, safety and sustainability, Overture is also being designed to fly more than 600 routes around the world in as little as half the time. Flying from Miami to London in just under five hours and Los Angeles to Honolulu in t…

How are they doing this with sustainable energy?

biofuels or synthetics. not sure if they plan to own the fuel supply chain, so "net zero" may come through offsets to cover the impact of producing the fuels

Re: American Airlines agrees to purchase Boom Supersonic Overture aircraft

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Post by 1024core »

mikeyouse wrote: post #10
onychomys wrote: post #4

> American has paid a non-refundable deposit on the initial 20 aircraft. Pretty glad I don't own American stock right now, because they're apparently led by madmen.

It's phrased in such a way to give the idea that they've made a significant commitment, but it's entirely possible it was something like a 1% down payment.

The free publicity alone will pay for that.

Re: American Airlines agrees to purchase Boom Supersonic Overture aircraft

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Post by bombcar »

pySSK wrote: post #12
gbronner wrote: post #6

Curious how the combination of remote work, videoconferencing, and the really luxurious business class / first class on sub-mach aircraft will compare to this. This is slower and smaller than concorde, so we'll see if the market really values speed over convenience / luxury. Boeing made the opposite decision 20 years ago when they cancelled the sonic cruiser.

There is no substitute for F2F for some types of work. Everyone I know hates flying, even if it is lie-flat. If someone can reduce the pain of flying to UK/Europe and Asia by knocking a few hours off then I would definitely prefer it.

Timezone differences alone make F2F worthwhile, even if you're fully remote. A week here and there face-to-face on the same clock is valuable.
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