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Apple becomes first tech giant to explicitly ban caste discrimination

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Re: Apple becomes first tech giant to explicitly ban caste discrimination

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Out of curiosity, for Indians working in America, how hard is it to hide your caste or pretend to be of another caste altogether?

Is this something that comes up in conversation among Indians? Do names tend to correlate to you caste? And if so, do people change them as a way of hiding their family caste?

Re: Apple becomes first tech giant to explicitly ban caste discrimination

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I have mixed feelings on this. There are of course things that aren't explicitly prohibited by workplace policies but are no doubt unacceptable - e.g. discriminating against left-handed employees. But it's still useful to have explicit policies against caste discrimination to make clear that it's unacceptable. On the other hand, as an Indian in a top tech company we're more likely to experience racism than casteism (…

>Edit: as if to prove my point about racism, in this very thread there is already a comment talking about Indian nepotism. I was wondering if you could clarify this. Why is the caste system fair game to criticize but nepotism isn't?

Because it's a negative trait being generally applied to a people group based upon their race. And it comes more from a cultural stereotype than from any basis in observable evidence.

Re: Apple becomes first tech giant to explicitly ban caste discrimination

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> lawsuit about alleged casteism

Why is it just not called racism? Introducing new terms kind of derails the problem.

India (and Africa, China, Asia...) has a system where people with lighter skin are consider as "better". People with fair (whiter) skin are considered aristocracy, that never had to work outside on fields.

And castes could not intermarry for couple of thousands of years, it is legitimate to consider them as a race.

Re: Apple becomes first tech giant to explicitly ban caste discrimination

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looks the other way when Indian director has all Indian SDMs reporting to him It’s all lip service. Nepotism is rampant at FAANG

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You are treading dangerous waters here.

Why paying a decent wage and have a nice work-life balance when there are people in the 3rd word working 12 hours a day, 7 days a week and for pennies?

Worker's rights should expand towards the world, not the other way around.

Re: Apple becomes first tech giant to explicitly ban caste discrimination

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looks the other way when Indian director has all Indian SDMs reporting to him It’s all lip service. Nepotism is rampant at FAANG

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Attributing characterstics to popultions of hundreds of millions based on anecdotal data from a handful cannot be accurate, just perpetuates stereotypes and doesn't help.

Re: Apple becomes first tech giant to explicitly ban caste discrimination

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It says in the article that Google (and Microsoft, Dell, Amazon + FB/Meta) aren't (yet?) implementing this, but I didn't see anything about them doing the opposite . Additionally I don't imagine they'd gain much from doing so, as a business. Is there any more info on this?

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This is a great example of the kind of hyper-reactivity that makes conversation on most of the internet absolutely impossible. The parent said they didn't see this in the article, don't imagine they'd gain from it, and asked for more info about it - all totally reasonable thoughts and expressed without negativity. And yet you responded with snide superiority, as though your dialogue with this person was already an argument before it even started.

Re: Apple becomes first tech giant to explicitly ban caste discrimination

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Casteism, while bad, is not racism. Saying casteism is ingrained in Indians on the other hand is racism.

The Caste system is as old as India itself, from ancient India: the varna, and the joti. The Indian Government itself recognizes how deep it goes, and based their Affirmative Action program upon it. To say it's not ingrained is simply choosing to ignore the problem is there. It's not saying "all Indians are casteist" but recognizing, much like the American South pre-Jim Crow, it was ingrained in society. https://en.w…

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Re: Apple becomes first tech giant to explicitly ban caste discrimination

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It says in the article that Google (and Microsoft, Dell, Amazon + FB/Meta) aren't (yet?) implementing this, but I didn't see anything about them doing the opposite . Additionally I don't imagine they'd gain much from doing so, as a business. Is there any more info on this?

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I think it was a fair question to ask, wasn’t it? Article says Google simply haven’t got an anti-caste-discrimination policy, someone says something implying that they’re actually getting worse re caste discrimination, so I ask for more info because that’s truly surprising.
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