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The article is from Reutlinger Generalanzeiger, a regional newspaper, and they probably have better sources than Der Spiegel.
The B28 is a very scenic drive, the region is also not a densely populated area. I used to live close by.
[1]: https://www.gea.de/blaulicht_artikel,-schwerer-crashnahe-zai...
Earlier quoted context omitted.
According to the articke, autonomous car (unclear so far if manually controlled at the time of the accident or not at the moment) hit car A (old lady), car A subsequently hit car B, car B went of the road, hit a tree and caught fire. After hitting car A, the autonomous car hit car C head on (I assume that's what you see in the picture), driver of car C died (no surpise whej looking at the picture). Pretty fucked up,…
> autonomous car (unclear so far if manually controlled at the time of the accident or not at the moment) More evidence that testing this stuff on the public roads, backup driver or not, is dangerous.
Serious question: will we demand perfection from autonomous cars before we allow them out of “test” status? How many autonomous miles without an accident will be sufficient to prove safety? I am not diminishing this tragedy; I can only imagine the grief of the families involved and my heart goes out to them. I am also NOT making the “have to break a few eggs to make an omelette“ argument; clearly something went wrong…
The tech needs to stick around long enough and proliferate to a large enough cross section of society to become mundane (something Concorde failed to do). The people who are not satisfied will never be satisfied by an improvement in the numbers. What will change their minds is when it becomes clear that nobody else cares and they're just yelling at clouds. Realistically what that means is a generation has to come of age after the tech has proliferated and accept it by default and don't see it as pushing the limits of what's reasonable. From there the acceptance gets back-ported.
BMW has denied that it was an autonomous / self-driving test-car [1]. The article is from Reutlinger Generalanzeiger, a regional newspaper, and they probably have better sources than Der Spiegel. The B28 is a very scenic drive, the region is also not a densely populated area. I used to live close by. [1]: https://www.gea.de/blaulicht_artikel,-schwerer-crashnahe-zai...
The phrasing in the article is a bit confusing if it's actually established that it was running autonomously or not. (other articles suggest that's currently unclear/hasn't been announced)
The article calls it an E-test car but it also says it had the 43 year old driver and 4 passengers(aged 31, 47, 42 and a baby). Is it a test car, which I'd expect would just have 1 or 2 employees monitoring everything, or a car being used by civilians? If you zoom in the picture, the logo on the center of the car's rim is BMW's logo...
Can't read german. Does anyone have any input on the following question? Isn't a driver meant to constantly monitor a slef driving car and manually take over? Do we know of this person had this ability? Can a person react quick enough to prevent an accident?
Can't read german. Does anyone have any input on the following question? Isn't a driver meant to constantly monitor a slef driving car and manually take over? Do we know of this person had this ability? Can a person react quick enough to prevent an accident?
I can't answer, but I can't imagine myself being focused enough to be able to react really quickly to an immediate danger on the road if I'm not actively driving the car. I doubt most people would be able to do this. I don't think I'm going to use a self driving car in self driving mode as long as I am expected to watch out for danger and take over if needed. If I need to constantly monitor, I might as well drive. Se…
Serious question: will we demand perfection from autonomous cars before we allow them out of “test” status? How many autonomous miles without an accident will be sufficient to prove safety? I am not diminishing this tragedy; I can only imagine the grief of the families involved and my heart goes out to them. I am also NOT making the “have to break a few eggs to make an omelette“ argument; clearly something went wrong…
Not perfection, just no human injuries for the limited duration of the tests, that is, for a few billion km or so.
Can't read german. Does anyone have any input on the following question? Isn't a driver meant to constantly monitor a slef driving car and manually take over? Do we know of this person had this ability? Can a person react quick enough to prevent an accident?
I think it's pretty well known in the self-driving car industry that safety drivers do a great job if they have to intervene several times an hour. And they're good at getting the vehicle unstuck if there's e.g. a flat tyre. But for a system that only needs an intervention once a week? The safety drivers often won't react fast enough - they're just there to take the blame.
BMW has denied that it was an autonomous / self-driving test-car [1]. The article is from Reutlinger Generalanzeiger, a regional newspaper, and they probably have better sources than Der Spiegel. The B28 is a very scenic drive, the region is also not a densely populated area. I used to live close by. [1]: https://www.gea.de/blaulicht_artikel,-schwerer-crashnahe-zai...
A sticker on the vehicle clearly shows it was BMW autonomous test vehicle: https://twitter.com/AEONde/status/1559477911446589441