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.bit non-governmental domain name registrar, for the post-SOPA era

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Re: .bit non-governmental domain name registrar, for the post-SOPA era

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post #8

I'd love to register a .bit domain just as an experiment/for fun, but I'm a bit wary of the methods for obtaining bitcoins that I've found.. anyone have a good tip for an exchange, or experience with obtaining bitcoins/registering a .bit domain through any other means.. Or, any other related information to share? I also can't quite figure out if it's worth my time to set one of my computers at mining bitcoins, how lo…

The short answer is that you SHOULDN'T set up a mining rig to mine bitcoins, if all you want to do is USE bitcoins.

Simply buy or trade for them. The easiest way to do that, in my opinion (from a US-centric perspective) is to set up a Dwolla account, transfer a bit of money from your bank to Dwolla. Then transfer that money from Dwolla to an exchange (Mtgox and TradeHill are two examples), and then buy bitcoins at market rate.

Then you can use them to buy goods and services (including namecoin names). Bitcoins are the "currency". Namecoins are sort-of related (using the same underlying technology), but are a separate product.

Re: .bit non-governmental domain name registrar, for the post-SOPA era

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post #8

I'd love to register a .bit domain just as an experiment/for fun, but I'm a bit wary of the methods for obtaining bitcoins that I've found.. anyone have a good tip for an exchange, or experience with obtaining bitcoins/registering a .bit domain through any other means.. Or, any other related information to share? I also can't quite figure out if it's worth my time to set one of my computers at mining bitcoins, how lo…

The short answer is that you SHOULDN'T set up a mining rig to mine bitcoins, if all you want to do is USE bitcoins. Simply buy or trade for them. The easiest way to do that, in my opinion (from a US-centric perspective) is to set up a Dwolla account, transfer a bit of money from your bank to Dwolla. Then transfer that money from Dwolla to an exchange (Mtgox and TradeHill are two examples), and then buy bitcoins at ma…

Thank you, Dwolla looks exactly like what I'm looking for.

Re: .bit non-governmental domain name registrar, for the post-SOPA era

#13
I published open source Faucet code recently and also launched test namecoin faucet at http://faucet.yepcorp.com

Feel free to request your 3 namecoins to test things out. This should be enough for actually registering 1-2 domains at current prices.

Read here more about registering .bit domain yourself with namecoins (not buying 1 year registration with bitcoins!!!)

http://dot-bit.org/HowToRegisterAndConfigureBitDomains

Re: .bit non-governmental domain name registrar, for the post-SOPA era

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I don't get why did they have to replace DNS with some kind of JSON hack which "mostly" supports the same records. There are already a bunch of alternative DNS roots[1] with their own TLDs which work fine with the existing DNS software. [1]: https://secure.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/wiki/Alternative_D...

This isn't a replacement of existing DNS with some arbitrary JSON protocol, this is a P2P DNS called Namecoin which happens to use JSON. Arguably, the flexibility offered by JSON can allow for sophisticated technologies to emerge which can take advantage of this naming system. It's clear from the very article of this submission that this is the case. For instance, the I2P fields are combined in a structure that best…

which happens to use JSON

But that's my point: why? I'm not saying they should implement a DNS root, I'm saying I don't see the benefit in using a new format, when:

1. The DNS packet format is compatible with existing resolvers, which eases the transition (for example, someone could use the new system without installing anything, by trusting a Namecoin resolving server) 2. It uses less space for the common use case - JSON is smaller than e.g. XML, but it's still hardly a small format. 3. It's extensible for other use cases (Tor, I2P) without bloating the common - see EDNS

Frankly, I think they're reinventing the wheel, poorly, by designing their own format.

Re: .bit non-governmental domain name registrar, for the post-SOPA era

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

This isn't a replacement of existing DNS with some arbitrary JSON protocol, this is a P2P DNS called Namecoin which happens to use JSON. Arguably, the flexibility offered by JSON can allow for sophisticated technologies to emerge which can take advantage of this naming system. It's clear from the very article of this submission that this is the case. For instance, the I2P fields are combined in a structure that best…

which happens to use JSON But that's my point: why? I'm not saying they should implement a DNS root, I'm saying I don't see the benefit in using a new format, when: 1. The DNS packet format is compatible with existing resolvers, which eases the transition (for example, someone could use the new system without installing anything, by trusting a Namecoin resolving server) 2. It uses less space for the common use case -…

'cos namecoin system is more then just dns. right now there are several additions in draft specification, like messagin, personal space and something else. json format allows developer to evolve project.

Re: .bit non-governmental domain name registrar, for the post-SOPA era

#17
post #15

The name of the website (dot bit) suggests the domain names will be using the Top Level Domain '.bit'. Is it the case? Can someone give an example of a domain that would be provided by this registrar? Domain.bit would be the typical example...?

correct. for example, i have http://room.bit/ as a mirror to my project http://betco.in/

Although to use these domains you need to do some leg work right now, 'cos obviously no root domains support this TLD.

Easiest for me was to switch to one DNS server from this list http://dot-bit.org/HowToBrowseBitDomains#Use_a_DNS_server_th...

Re: .bit non-governmental domain name registrar, for the post-SOPA era

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Can dot-bit.org domain be taken in the name of "facilitating infringement" if SOPA does pass? From what I hear, I think the answer is yes. Sure, they'll say they have no intention of doing that ... but as along as the law itself allows them to do it, and a service like that proves to be a pain in the ass, they'll do it.

Re: .bit non-governmental domain name registrar, for the post-SOPA era

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post #8

I'd love to register a .bit domain just as an experiment/for fun, but I'm a bit wary of the methods for obtaining bitcoins that I've found.. anyone have a good tip for an exchange, or experience with obtaining bitcoins/registering a .bit domain through any other means.. Or, any other related information to share? I also can't quite figure out if it's worth my time to set one of my computers at mining bitcoins, how lo…

Get some namecoins at http://faucet.yepcorp.com and then read here how to manually register .bit domain - http://dot-bit.org/HowToRegisterAndConfigureBitDomains

Re: .bit non-governmental domain name registrar, for the post-SOPA era

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

This isn't a replacement of existing DNS with some arbitrary JSON protocol, this is a P2P DNS called Namecoin which happens to use JSON. Arguably, the flexibility offered by JSON can allow for sophisticated technologies to emerge which can take advantage of this naming system. It's clear from the very article of this submission that this is the case. For instance, the I2P fields are combined in a structure that best…

which happens to use JSON But that's my point: why? I'm not saying they should implement a DNS root, I'm saying I don't see the benefit in using a new format, when: 1. The DNS packet format is compatible with existing resolvers, which eases the transition (for example, someone could use the new system without installing anything, by trusting a Namecoin resolving server) 2. It uses less space for the common use case -…

While it would be much more convenient for everybody if they implemented some extension of the current protocol/formatting, there are some issues with accomplishing that.

Names registered with namecoin have to depend on some blobs which can be updated by the name owner. The blobs need a format of some kind, and since they're already using a different protocol than DNS to achieve this P2P system, they might as well use JSON.

Also, as I stated in my comment, the structure of JSON fits better for this type of system than DNS's formatting. DNS requires redundancy to describe round-robin, and it's not easy (or elegant) to express complex structures in DNS, compared to JSON.

One example of this in practice is the I2P field I mentioned before.

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