The "Panic!" bit is a reference to the pop-rock band Panic! At the Disco:
The Big Bang didn't happen: What do the James Webb images show?
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Re: The Big Bang didn't happen: What do the James Webb images show?
#32I have no idea if this is true or not. But for a moment I was just imagining a world where scientists agreed that the Big Bang never happened. How many physicists' work would be thrown in the trash? How many high school science books would have to be updated? How would the general public's trust in science change? Would be such an interesting thing to observe.
> How would the general public's trust in science change?
Depending how it was taught.
When I was a kid, the T-Rex tail slid along the ground like a crocodile. Now we know dino tails were used for balance and they generally remained rigid.
Dinos didn't have feathers when I was a kid.
Pluto was a planet when I was a kid.
However, one crackpot clickbait article didn't change the three things listed above. Millions of person-hours of research did.
Re: The Big Bang didn't happen: What do the James Webb images show?
#33Author's Wikipedia page: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eric_Lerner I get the impression he's regarded as something of a crank in astrophysics communities.
I don't see how you get that impression from Wikipedia. You're just projecting your own bias and pretending it backs you up.
> Lerner's ideas have been rejected by the professional physicists and cosmologists who have reviewed them.
Are you being obtuse?
Re: The Big Bang didn't happen: What do the James Webb images show?
#34“ If the universe is expanding, a strange optical illusion must exist. Galaxies (or any other objects) in expanding space do not continue to look smaller and smaller with increasing distance. Beyond a certain point, they start looking larger and larger. (This is because their light is supposed to have left them when they were closer to us.)”
Interesting misunderstanding of inflation.
Re: The Big Bang didn't happen: What do the James Webb images show?
#35I have no idea if this is true or not. But for a moment I was just imagining a world where scientists agreed that the Big Bang never happened. How many physicists' work would be thrown in the trash? How many high school science books would have to be updated? How would the general public's trust in science change? Would be such an interesting thing to observe.
This probably belies my ignorance, but I'm guessing not much would change. All the research on galaxy ages and star formation would have to be reinterpreted, but I bet most of it would be salvagable, just with a different first mover. Like refactoring a codebase to replace a dependency.
If the work is good, it's reasonably independent of the story being told.
Re: The Big Bang didn't happen: What do the James Webb images show?
#36Author's Wikipedia page: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eric_Lerner I get the impression he's regarded as something of a crank in astrophysics communities.
im also sceptical but in high school i learned about a bunch of people who were thought to be cranks but turned out to be right. for me personally its not too hard to immagine that big bang turns out to be false but i appreciate that it is the best model we have so far
Re: The Big Bang didn't happen: What do the James Webb images show?
#37Author's Wikipedia page: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eric_Lerner I get the impression he's regarded as something of a crank in astrophysics communities.
im also sceptical but in high school i learned about a bunch of people who were thought to be cranks but turned out to be right. for me personally its not too hard to immagine that big bang turns out to be false but i appreciate that it is the best model we have so far
But you didn't learn about the millions of cranks that turned out to be wrong.
Re: The Big Bang didn't happen: What do the James Webb images show?
#38Robert A Wilson's blog, hidden assumptions, has been arguing there are also problems with general relativity and the conservation of mass. His work, consistently rejected despite respect for his mathematical expertise, has recently been published in peer review. He has also questioned whether the Big bang doesn't raise more questions than it answers, alongside dark matter.
Lots of people do this. Come up with a theory with testable set of predictions that isn’t just a patchwork of models glued together to explain data and then you’ll convince people.
Agreed, this his how things work in practice, but man, I wish we could do better. The question of whether new observations falsify the current theory is completely separate from the creation of a better theory. If the Big Bang theory is wrong, then it's wrong, and we just don't know how the universe began.
Re: The Big Bang didn't happen: What do the James Webb images show?
#39I have no idea if this is true or not. But for a moment I was just imagining a world where scientists agreed that the Big Bang never happened. How many physicists' work would be thrown in the trash? How many high school science books would have to be updated? How would the general public's trust in science change? Would be such an interesting thing to observe.
Wouldn't be the first time something like that happened. We used to think mars had civilization and canals until not too long ago (kinda funny that the drawings of those canals ended up looking a lot like the veins in a human eye). Also, the idea of radio waves going through the ether, on which a lot of science was based got disproved at some point.
> We used to think mars had civilization and canals until not too long ago
Who? I've never heard of such an idea.
Re: The Big Bang didn't happen: What do the James Webb images show?
#40Author's Wikipedia page: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eric_Lerner I get the impression he's regarded as something of a crank in astrophysics communities.
The end of the article really feels like he is trying to sell me something.
> We at LPPFusion have been applying that knowledge concretely to the development of a cheap, clean and unlimited source of energy that can entirely replace fossil fuels starting in this decade.
And I doubt that the website (iai.tv), that I have never head of, is a source that can be trusted.