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Teaching Good Sex

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Re: Teaching Good Sex

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post #5

The real problem here is that many parents have very strong opinions regarding teaching sex in school. obligatory south park reference (nsfw): http://www.southparkstudios.com/full-episodes/s05e07-proper-...

Dealing with the parent problem is just as important as what to say once you have their go ahead.

Re: Teaching Good Sex

#22

I recently (well, a few years ago) went through sex education in schools. They don't really teach you sex, as much as why you shouldn't have sex. Even when they're teaching contraception, the consistent emphasis on only x% effective really cuts out student interest. It's almost like saying, "yeah we have a method or preventing HIV transmission, but it doesn't really work." While it might seem like a good idea at firs…

I find myself somewhat agreeing with the general sentiment of your final paragraph. But "I think it's about time we standardized it" is really rubbing me the wrong way (honestly, not pun initially intended). Either you don't mean that how it sounds or you are massively underestimating the variety of sexual activities that humans engage in and enjoy.

Just with the examples you give (common erogenous zones, sensing feedback, appropriate pressure) there are massive differences between what one person might find enjoyable compared to another. Can you expand on what you would have in mind?

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#23

For those if you who have never had sex, how does this (seeing this article) make you feel? Please be honest. - I feel a combination of envy and hatred (but I wish I didn't feel like this.)

That's interesting. Who on earth is the hatred directed toward?

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post #23

For those if you who have never had sex, how does this (seeing this article) make you feel? Please be honest. - I feel a combination of envy and hatred (but I wish I didn't feel like this.)

That's interesting. Who on earth is the hatred directed toward?

towards those getting laid.. I know it's stupid, but I think in the past part of it arose from just knowing that they were doing it, and I as a geek was not going to get it.

I strongly thought in the past that because I was nerdy, I was automatically despised by girls. I know that's not completely true now, but there is a little bit of truth to it.

But to reiterate, I think what gave me this feeling, was thinking that girls hated me coz I was a nerd, etc.

Re: Teaching Good Sex

#25
post #8

They may not know how to do long division or compute an angular velocity but, by damn, American kids are going to know how to fuck properly! I am pleased my tax dollars are so well spent. "Female ejaculation" - sheez...

I went to the school that the article talks about. It's a private school. It's not anybody's tax dollars. (And we did know how to do math.)

Yes. I was struck by the definition given to the school by the Urban Dictionary: http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=FCS&defid...

BTW is that the past tense of the verb "know" as in "we _did_ know how to do math until we f*ed our brains out!"

Sorry, I'm just jealous because I have never met a girl who went to Friends Central School. Had I done so possibly she could have demonstrated the marvels of "female ejaculation". I'd keep my distance of course, just observing.

Re: Teaching Good Sex

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It seems unwise to promote casual sex without fully understanding the consequences. And I don't speak of the overblown disease fears, but the far more serious effects of emotional desensitization. Sex elicits a chemical response much like cocaine or heroin, and is also prone to the build up of tolerance. Thus, casual sex with multiple partners leads to a severely diminished capacity for pair bonding and emotional fulfilment. It is no coincidence that the state of marriage in western nations is in shambles, while citizens report high levels of unhappiness as demonstrated by massively increasing antidepressant consumption [0].

Promoting a rapid change from tradition should be done so cautiously, for Occam's Razor suggests that the majority of the world's civilizations evolved strict marital practices (celibacy till marriage and fidelity thereafter) for good reason [1].

0. http://www.cdc.gov/nchs/data/databriefs/db76.htm

1. http://darktriumvirate.wordpress.com/2011/10/02/the-cancer-o...

Re: Teaching Good Sex

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I recently (well, a few years ago) went through sex education in schools. They don't really teach you sex, as much as why you shouldn't have sex. Even when they're teaching contraception, the consistent emphasis on only x% effective really cuts out student interest. It's almost like saying, "yeah we have a method or preventing HIV transmission, but it doesn't really work." While it might seem like a good idea at firs…

Addressing your last point--I don't think that would really be all that effective. It's like teaching a driving course without getting in a car. The best you can really do is go over the basic safety rules.

Re: Teaching Good Sex

#28
post #23

Earlier quoted context omitted.

That's interesting. Who on earth is the hatred directed toward?

towards those getting laid.. I know it's stupid, but I think in the past part of it arose from just knowing that they were doing it, and I as a geek was not going to get it. I strongly thought in the past that because I was nerdy, I was automatically despised by girls. I know that's not completely true now, but there is a little bit of truth to it. But to reiterate, I think what gave me this feeling, was thinking tha…

I remember that feeling well. Took years to shake even after the first time.

Without writing a novel on the subject, it helps to take a perspective lifted from evolutionary biology, and embrace your inner beast. It's possible to be too much of a nice guy.

Re: Teaching Good Sex

#29
post #22

I recently (well, a few years ago) went through sex education in schools. They don't really teach you sex, as much as why you shouldn't have sex. Even when they're teaching contraception, the consistent emphasis on only x% effective really cuts out student interest. It's almost like saying, "yeah we have a method or preventing HIV transmission, but it doesn't really work." While it might seem like a good idea at firs…

I find myself somewhat agreeing with the general sentiment of your final paragraph. But "I think it's about time we standardized it" is really rubbing me the wrong way (honestly, not pun initially intended). Either you don't mean that how it sounds or you are massively underestimating the variety of sexual activities that humans engage in and enjoy. Just with the examples you give (common erogenous zones, sensing fee…

The fully generalizable things you can teach would be communication, consent, and respect. But really, a standardized curriculum for sex sounds kind of weird. People would think they're dirty perverts for coming up with something that isn't in the standardized curriculum.

Re: Teaching Good Sex

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post #26

It seems unwise to promote casual sex without fully understanding the consequences. And I don't speak of the overblown disease fears, but the far more serious effects of emotional desensitization. Sex elicits a chemical response much like cocaine or heroin, and is also prone to the build up of tolerance. Thus, casual sex with multiple partners leads to a severely diminished capacity for pair bonding and emotional ful…

Research tends to show that "celibacy until marriage and fidelity thereafter" tends to be more of a lie that people all agree to believe rather than the truth. Pre-marital shenanigans and extra-marital affairs are extremely common, the latter especially among higher-status men, who in many other cultures are openly polygamous.

There are a number of things that are cultural universals. Every culture has music, or ritualistically disposes of their dead, or has taboos against murder. Monogamy and pre-marital celibacy are not two of these.

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