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If you want to get rich, stop being a fucking joker

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Re: If you want to get rich, stop being a fucking joker

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This should be a very good read for those of you that think that formal education is not necessary for start-up success. I am not sure who the author of this is and whether he went to college or not, but he clearly needs to take a good writing class. He may actually have a good point about keeping commitments but the whole thing is written so badly, in such a meandering and repetitive way that it is a joke. And I dou…

The repetition is obviously intentional (I'm surprised this wasn't evident to you). It's written more as a speech rather then a pamphlet. Have you listened to for instance Obama, or any other politician? Usually they have very little to say(you could probably summarize in 5 sentences), but to get the point across they use repetition. It's an effective communication tool.

> It's an effective communication tool.

...used really badly in this example.

Re: If you want to get rich, stop being a fucking joker

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"Dear Sebastian, we quit, piss off. Best, Sam, Lee, and Jon." Seriously, this is just ridiculous. Is there anyone here that would actually put up with this ridiculous public shaming at all, let alone from a CEO that's off in Asia staying up "20 hours" to print flyers for one of his other companies, while he bitches that you're not reneging on your teaching commitments (which I would presume he knew about when he took…

It reads like the person has a drug habbit. I feel sorry for the employees.

> It reads like the person has a drug habbit. I feel sorry for the employees.

It sounds more like a con-artist to me. I also feel very sorry for the employees, even though I have my doubts that they take away home any salary at this point.

Re: If you want to get rich, stop being a fucking joker

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Dear Sebastian,

You worked 20 hours straight. Congratulations, want a biscuit? That's about 20 hours less than what most people here have done trying to meet a deadline, or squash a stubborn bug. And that's not counting the guys who do that for kicks on Minecraft (I kid ...).

Hannibal nearly got his troops to Rome. Presumably, he knew where Rome was, and so did his men. If you want people to MARCH, they need a destination. In web apps, this is a wireframe.

So, break out a HTML editor, and get the wireframe up. Then tell the devs to push it live, put the database behind it, and get it to scale. If not, it's because you don't have a product in mind, and simply MARCHING is not going to get you to Rome, or anywhere. When people are lost, or lack a compass, they generally walk around in circles. Does that seem familiar? Of course, good engineers use the time to check out options, so they know what to do when there's actually a clear goal.

Most engineers live to fix problems. A creaky prototype that won't work is a problem that needs to be fixed. A blank page is just a chance to make scribbly notes.

Re: If you want to get rich, stop being a fucking joker

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Surely this guy is joking. "A joker is someone who does not complete something, and has excuses. Don't be a fucking joker." and later ...Hannibal is his greatest hero, the guy who ALMOST conquered rome, but had a great excuse for not doing so. and "Now, here’s the score. I had a very fast, but totally possible timetable. At first, we were on it, and killing it. Then, one of us slipped. I don’t know who slipped first,…

He's joking for sure. Just have a look at the very first paragraph! (see also: http://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=3246869 )

Why would he "change names and details" if it wasn't for real?

Re: If you want to get rich, stop being a fucking joker

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"Dear Sebastian, we quit, piss off. Best, Sam, Lee, and Jon." Seriously, this is just ridiculous. Is there anyone here that would actually put up with this ridiculous public shaming at all, let alone from a CEO that's off in Asia staying up "20 hours" to print flyers for one of his other companies, while he bitches that you're not reneging on your teaching commitments (which I would presume he knew about when he took…

A couple points - They're partners, not employees. Yes, I'll suffer at the printshop when I promised it. My colleague offered to do it, but he just had a baby and it would be ridiculous to keep him all night. No one else was available on Sunday night. > they tend to be neither very good businessmen nor good employers. My staff like me, I pay top of market (sometimes 10x market pay, if the person is worth it but short…

this doesn't sound like 10x to me

"I got a top creative designer in there working for a fraction of his normal cost by being very fucking cool with him, and also working out a deal where we refer him business, and he can use our office space to hold client meetings during our off hours.

...

The designer came with me, working for peanuts compared to his normal rates (he’s a top guy)"

Re: If you want to get rich, stop being a fucking joker

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Can someone provide me some concise explanation as to what Sebastian Marshall has actually done - outside of lots of blog posts, Hacker news posts, and travel?

I've wondered that myself, for quite some time, and refrained from asking it publicly because I knew it would be interpreted as a personal attack. It's not. I'm genuinely curious what this guy's credentials are. To name two other people on HN who write stuff on the web that gets read here: We know what Paul Graham has accomplished, business-wise, and Jacques Mattheij. (And if you don't know up front, it is easy enough to find that out about either of them.) That's why people are interested in what they have to say on their personal sites. That is their credential (in terms of "why should you give a flying fuck about my personal opinions on X topic?").

I've gone to the HN profile and the About page of his blog and anything else I could find for Sebastian and can find no enlightenment as to what he actually does for a living. I can't find that information in spite of spending some time trying, which is one reason I typically do not read his blog posts. Again, it is not intended as a personal attack. If he's for real, this is an opportunity to enlighten us all and self-promote in a positive way. It's only an ugly thing to ask if he is essentially full of hot air.

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