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Milwaukee Tool Raises the Bar with New USA Factory

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Re: Milwaukee Tool Raises the Bar with New USA Factory

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Post by thejohnconway »

lostapathy wrote: post #147
hayst4ck wrote: post #137

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Unions aren't about more wages. Unions are about checking owner/capitalist/CEO power. Why does the CEO get paid 10-100x more than the lowest paid worker despite working the same number of hours a day? That's the question unions aim to solve. This puzzle revolves around power. Power is the ability to execute force or inflict pleasure or pain. A CEO is clearly capable of painful force against their unskilled labor. A C…

> Why does the CEO get paid 10-100x more than the lowest paid worker despite working the same number of hours a day? Honestly I wouldn’t want to work at a company (of any size) where the CEO was only worth 10x what the lowest paid janitor makes.

Why?

Re: Milwaukee Tool Raises the Bar with New USA Factory

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Post by raverbashing »

recursv_thnkng wrote: post #245
kevin_thibedeau wrote: post #94

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That manufacturing process is the result of bean counters determining it's a waste to ship boxed products that are 50% air overseas in a container. Ship the broken down components instead with denser packing and have a minimum wage worker bolt it together stateside. It isn't an enlightened return to domestic production.

There are tax implications as well when shipping fully assembled products. The big auto manufacturers have done this to avoid tariffs on vehicle imports.

True. CKD kits are a great tax-saving trick, and you can also claim to have "a factory" in the country

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Post by sgift »

UberFly wrote: post #200
rayiner wrote: post #153

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I did actually have a lady yelling at me once at a street fair because one of our products had a "Made in the USA" tag on it. Called us imperialists. Yes those people are out there. (I'm in the US btw)

In a big enough society you can almost always find someone who has some fringe belief. If you had this once a week it could be relevant. But once? Doesn't reach the relevance threshold for policy discussions.

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Post by MichaelZuo »

nazka wrote: post #232
throwaway9870 wrote: post #195

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QA testing is easier said than done. There are few firms the in the world that could do complete QA testing on a TV for example.

Ya for instance protein supplements. If you didn’t know you have to be very careful about the origin and the process the company use to produce those. But because it’s very hard to test even with an independent testing company, you have all kind of speculation about which company to avoid and the ones that are good because you can never know. So if you see one company doing shading things or not being 100% transparen…

Mass spectrometry is relatively common nowadays It’s more likely no one wants to pay the hundreds of thousands or millions necessary to do a full test of a single supplement.

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Post by rascul »

dmix wrote: post #225
rascul wrote: post #206

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I guess I don't understand. Sears sells the same Craftsman power tools I got from Lowe's.

Craftsman was bought by Black & Decker from Sears in 2017, but Sears kept a limited license to produce their own products under that brand name which it sells in their stores (I believe TTI is the actual manufacturer of Sears Craftsman power tools). Craftsman = "V20" Sears Craftsman = "20V" Different incompatible brands, it's a bit deceptive. https://toolguyd.com/craftsman-v20-sears-craftsman-20v-compa...

I can only find the V20 stuff on sears.com, the same stuff Lowe's sells.

Note that article is four years old and there's a possibility related lawsuit since then.

https://www.cnbc.com/2019/03/07/sears-is-sued-over-craftsman...

Re: Milwaukee Tool Raises the Bar with New USA Factory

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Post by einr »

stacktrust wrote: post #81
CraigJPerry wrote: post #79

I noticed at the most recent Milwaukee power tools event that they’re really going all in on specialist tools. This is a strong signal that they’re going to continue to cream the competition because irrational or not, people end up preferring a single battery platform, it’s not guaranteed they’ll stick to one brand for future power tool purchases but it’s extremely sticky. The Milwaukee battery power tool ecosystem s…

Are there adapters to migrate between some battery platforms?

For 18V tools, Makita seems to be the safest bet since they have used the same battery standard since 2005. There are adapters for Makita batteries to every other brand readily available on eBay/AliExpress etc.

Re: Milwaukee Tool Raises the Bar with New USA Factory

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Post by stacktrust »

dnissley wrote: post #229
hayst4ck wrote: post #164

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Paying another country to do something is a transfer of value and power (money). It creates a relationship of dependence. You become dependent on them for labor. Dependence is a base form of power. An entities power over you is proportional to their replace-ability. The individual business decision is sound, but the collective business decision is catastrophic. Not only does it create an economies of scale for advers…

> the prospect of war Are you claiming that trade dependence between countries makes war between them more likely?

> trade dependence between countries makes war between them more likely?

Depends on the relative symmetry of trade—balanced, deficit or surplus—combined with other factors, of course.

Re: Milwaukee Tool Raises the Bar with New USA Factory

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Post by beeforpork »

Local production is always good, so this is good news.

But I fail to see that 'this changes everything'. That tone of the article just feels patriotic. What will change, exactly? Did I miss some facts?

As for quality, regardless of whether it's with or without power, I doubt there is a big difference in US, German, Japanese, Australian tools -- it's a matter of preference and workshop organisation (e.g., for cordless power tools, the batteries should fit what is already there). One company may have a slightly better circular saw (Festool?) the next has a slightly better plunge router (Triton?) -- whatever. But most of that is marketing and branding policy (DeWalt is for the tough and sweating man and Festool is for the clean and thoughtful engineer -- but is there a quality difference in their cordless drills?) Milwaulkee is good and in the same league and I don't see changes coming by this.

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Post by stacktrust »

zppln wrote: post #256
hankman86 wrote: post #247

Non-American here: Made in USA isn’t a marker for quality any longer. In fact, it’s quite the opposite. These days, I make an effort to not buy American products. I wish that was different, but rarely have I seen this mix of carelessness and poor quality control without any attention to detail.

Kind of agree. I can't say I ever associated "Made in USA" with quality, and especially not with the combination of quality and elegance I associate with other countries. That being said, I would assume most people are biased towards their own country with regards to this, or perhaps the country stamped on long-lasting stuff they grew up with.

How about USA-made Starrett combination squares? Is there any better, anywhere in the world? https://starrett.com/category/111001

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Post by zppln »

stacktrust wrote: post #279
zppln wrote: post #256

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Kind of agree. I can't say I ever associated "Made in USA" with quality, and especially not with the combination of quality and elegance I associate with other countries. That being said, I would assume most people are biased towards their own country with regards to this, or perhaps the country stamped on long-lasting stuff they grew up with.

How about USA-made Starrett combination squares? Is there any better, anywhere in the world? https://starrett.com/category/111001

I have no idea. Are combination squares popular outside of the US? :)
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