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Re: Milwaukee Tool Raises the Bar with New USA Factory

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Post by sgt »

hankman86 wrote: post #247

Non-American here: Made in USA isn’t a marker for quality any longer. In fact, it’s quite the opposite. These days, I make an effort to not buy American products. I wish that was different, but rarely have I seen this mix of carelessness and poor quality control without any attention to detail.

Also non-American, and it's not often that I buy things that are manufactured in the US, but sometimes I do relating to tools and automotive related. My experience is usually that the quality is excellent. I think if one thing stands out, it's tooling. Americans are obsessed with excellent tooling and that shows.

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Post by xboxnolifes »

happyopossum wrote: post #103
chongli wrote: post #95

Earlier quoted context omitted.

You don’t have to choose one. With automation you can have a small, highly paid, highly skilled workforce do the work of a much larger, low skill, low paid workforce and actually produce higher quality products at a lower price.

So you’re picking low prices and an UNpaid workforce - cutting a workforce by 90% but doubling pay for the remaining 10% doesn’t improve a local or domestic economy.

That's like calling me unpaid because agricultural technological advancements have reduced the number of necessary farmers and allowed software jobs (and may others) to open up and pay me. Just because a single factory, company, or industry reduces the number of employed people doesn't mean they are unpaid. Technological advancement is not zero-sum.

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Post by zppln »

wheresmycraisin wrote: post #236

Makita makes power tools in Japan... for domestic Japanese customers. Makita power tools in the US (and I suspect elsewhere?) are made in China. Either Japanese customers are more patriotic, or Makita can't compete pricewise with Chinese made power tools in US market.

I live in Europe and most Makita gear I have is Made in Europe (e.g. Czech Republic). I do have an impact driver that is Made in Japan, but I had to order that from Japan.

Re: Milwaukee Tool Raises the Bar with New USA Factory

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Post by Ndymium »

exabrial wrote: post #193

While I have no doubt a lot of HN'rs are handy... for those that don't know, Milwaukee is _the_ professional tool line. If you get your house framed, your driveway re-concreted, your roof redone, your toilet cleared... they contractor was probably using a Milwaukee tool. It's owned by TTI (Techtronic Tool Industry) and oddly enough is the same people that make Ryobi.

This is in the US? I live in Finland and here Makita seems to be _the_ brand used by professionals. At least those that I've seen. Milwaukee exists but doesn't seem to be very popular.

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Post by swores »

rayiner wrote: post #224
blt wrote: post #171

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Please show me a single person who is both strongly anti-racist and strongly against free community college in the USA.

I didn’t say they opposed free college. I said the folks you would expect to support free college (those left of center) have been co-opted by a version of “anti-racism” that treats acknowledging civilizational competition with China as “racist.” There’s lots of people who support free college(or at least claim to)—but not as a means to rebuild the American industrial base and get jobs back from China. They support f…

What's the point of this apparent straw man? The reason the US can't / doesn't / shouldn't (not sure which, but presume you're suggesting at least one of those otherwise your comment's irrelevant) provide free college is because too many people who support they policy also support continued collaboration with China?

I don't see how that's relavent even if we set aside nuances and just agree for the sake of this topic to say that whatever your view on how relations with China should or shouldn't be is the right one.

edit: oh my bad it's not a straw man, you did create a link in your first comment it was just so tenuous I'd forgotten it.

> Because the folks who would ordinarily be advocating for free community college don’t want kids to go to school to learn those things.

So it's the fault of the left wing for not being left wing enough?

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Post by barry-cotter »

dmix wrote: post #234
barry-cotter wrote: post #187

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Should be very easy for you to rattle off a list of countries doing better then. You may find the below link helpful in your quest. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Programme_for_International_...

Those rankings are for 15 yr olds. The US definitely is #1 when it comes to high-end university schooling. Even among high schools and prep schools the nation-wide US average might be mediocre in public schools but when it comes to the higher-end private schools the US is still easily #1 https://www.prepreview.com/ranking/world/high-school-ranking...

Who does better than the “West” at non-elite education then? Surely non-elite must include a lot of people who never go to university. The PISA or TIMMS rankings are about as good a ranking of those as you’re going to get.

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Post by angio »

Ndymium wrote: post #264
exabrial wrote: post #193

While I have no doubt a lot of HN'rs are handy... for those that don't know, Milwaukee is _the_ professional tool line. If you get your house framed, your driveway re-concreted, your roof redone, your toilet cleared... they contractor was probably using a Milwaukee tool. It's owned by TTI (Techtronic Tool Industry) and oddly enough is the same people that make Ryobi.

This is in the US? I live in Finland and here Makita seems to be _the_ brand used by professionals. At least those that I've seen. Milwaukee exists but doesn't seem to be very popular.

Probably depends on the EU country as well. In some places it's usually Hilti or Wurth.

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Post by wil421 »

nimbius wrote: post #21
Someone1234 wrote: post #8

Milwaukee's battery tools are pretty great (M12 and M18 lines), but their hand tools aren't particularly good in my experience. So "raising the bar" for them would be just making hand tools that people want to buy over the competition. Made in the US is fine/good/whatever, but what I want to see from them is tools that are just good in their own right. I want to see their hand tools top Project Farm charts like their…

i apprenticed on armstrong and milwaukee tools and can confirm about 15 years ago they spun off a cheap Chinese line that was complete garbage compared to the USA line. good enough for tightening the occasional bolt but fell apart under daily use.

Sounds like harbor freight. I bought some “chrome” sockets that worked once. The chrome fell off and the bolts were stronger than the socket metal.

Re: Milwaukee Tool Raises the Bar with New USA Factory

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Post by wil421 »

hankman86 wrote: post #247

Non-American here: Made in USA isn’t a marker for quality any longer. In fact, it’s quite the opposite. These days, I make an effort to not buy American products. I wish that was different, but rarely have I seen this mix of carelessness and poor quality control without any attention to detail.

Why are you copy pasting the same comment more than once?
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