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Milwaukee Tool Raises the Bar with New USA Factory

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Re: Milwaukee Tool Raises the Bar with New USA Factory

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> they own their factories in China This isn’t as protective as one would imagine. Unscrupulous floor managers will still swap materials, run the crap and sell the good stuff.

Wow. How would floor managers benefit from that kind of swap?

By pocketing the difference.

Re: Milwaukee Tool Raises the Bar with New USA Factory

#32

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Wow. How would floor managers benefit from that kind of swap?

They sell the higher spec ones on the side to their buddies?

Wouldn't the lower spec ones fail QA checks on factory floor?

Re: Milwaukee Tool Raises the Bar with New USA Factory

#33

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> they own their factories in China This isn’t as protective as one would imagine. Unscrupulous floor managers will still swap materials, run the crap and sell the good stuff.

Wow. How would floor managers benefit from that kind of swap?

Same way it happens outside china in other industries. You know a supplier who sells material / service for $BUDGET minus X, in exchange for swapping the PO you get a portion of X from the supplier via back channel means, while company is now paying $BUDGET for lower quality material / service that costs supplier less.

Re: Milwaukee Tool Raises the Bar with New USA Factory

#34

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Wow. How would floor managers benefit from that kind of swap?

By pocketing the difference.

Ah, pocketing the delta on input costs. Hopefully the drop in output QA metrics would be detectable via software.

Re: Milwaukee Tool Raises the Bar with New USA Factory

#35

Earlier quoted context omitted.

They sell the higher spec ones on the side to their buddies?

Wouldn't the lower spec ones fail QA checks on factory floor?

Not if the floor manager controls the factory floor QA checks...

Re: Milwaukee Tool Raises the Bar with New USA Factory

#36

This reads like AI-produced ad text.

The human author of the text and this well-known blog is Stuart Deutsch, https://twitter.com/toolguyd Toolguyd has an active community (e.g. 100+ comments on this post) with real-world experience, challenging claims made by the blog.

> The human author of the text and this well-known blog is Stuart Deutsch, https://twitter.com/toolguyd

I find him to be pretty reliable overall, and I believe he’s drawn ire from some manufacturers due to his honesty.

He also has a PhD (in materials science IIRC), FWIW.

Re: Milwaukee Tool Raises the Bar with New USA Factory

#37

This reads like AI-produced ad text.

The human author of the text and this well-known blog is Stuart Deutsch, https://twitter.com/toolguyd Toolguyd has an active community (e.g. 100+ comments on this post) with real-world experience, challenging claims made by the blog.

This post in particular, though, felt like a generated advertisement. There was too much repetition, too much promotion and strange wording.

Re: Milwaukee Tool Raises the Bar with New USA Factory

#38

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> they own their factories in China This isn’t as protective as one would imagine. Unscrupulous floor managers will still swap materials, run the crap and sell the good stuff.

Wow. How would floor managers benefit from that kind of swap?

Because the factory manager is the one selling product out the back door.

Re: Milwaukee Tool Raises the Bar with New USA Factory

#39
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I don't think this will make much of a difference aside from the branding advantage. The quality of a mass-produced product like a consumer hand tool isn't a function of the country in which it is made but rather of its design. All the decisions made during that process and all the cost / performance considerations made are what determine the ultimate outcome. It's common to blame Chinese manufacturing for cheap tool…

> The quality of a mass-produced product like a consumer hand tool isn't a function of the country in which it is made but rather of its design

There's a lot more to production quality than just product design. Quality of materials, manufacturing tolerances, heat treatment, surface cleanliness, quality control procedures, tooling wear, order of operations, assembly jig design, and so on. Some of those may be affected by the country in which it's made, and some may not. While you may say those are "design" in that the designer specifies the material they want, whether their product really gets made the way they envision is not always up to them.

And even when it comes to just design, I'll say one thing: I have a lot more confidence in the designs produced by designers whose desks are within walking distance of the production line.

Re: Milwaukee Tool Raises the Bar with New USA Factory

#40

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Wouldn't the lower spec ones fail QA checks on factory floor?

Not if the floor manager controls the factory floor QA checks...

If factory owners really want integrity from software-executed QA checks, they can require HQ authorization of software and config updates on factory floor equipment that is equipped for local tamper detection of control planes.
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