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The layoffs at Klarna

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Re: The layoffs at Klarna

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I like how you mention California 6 times but somehow fail to realize this company was founded and based in Sweden

Wonder how similar Sweden is to the North American west coast, culturally speaking. It is the center of Scandinavia's tech scene, after all, and has birthed many companies.

Not at all similar.

Re: The layoffs at Klarna

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> The CEO said employees at Klarna are superstars, and superstars don’t want unions negotiating for them.

Actual superstars are happy to take advantage of what the Screen Actor's Guild does for them, just as the crew working on their shows are also happy to have their union, the writers are happy to have their union, and so on.

Re: The layoffs at Klarna

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I have never understood why health ensurance is handled by the employer in the US, why don't people buy private health insurance instead? It feels insane to put yourself in that kind of dependency on your employer.

Around the Great Depression, in an effort to get control of inflation, the 1942 Stabilization Act was passed. Because employers could no longer attract new employees by offering higher pay, they started offering other things like health insurance. Since it was payed directly by the employer it wasn't taxable income and didn't fall under control of the Stabilization Act, and since then it just stuck.

Note: 1942 is the middle of ww2, not the great depression. The war effort dramatically reduced labor availability. (back of the napkin math says roughly 12% of the US population served in the military, disregarding the massive labor pool required to support the military industrial complex)

Re: The layoffs at Klarna

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> Klarna made a major mistake in not letting the majority of employees know if they were safe from layoffs or not, for a whole night. I worked for a company that didn't let people know if they where safe, for a week. A friend worked for a company that didn't let people know for 3 months. It's beyond stupid, people becomes nervous and starts looking elsewhere and it's always the best people who leave first. That being…

I've worked for (non-tech) companies that didn't let employees know they were safe for months - and they did it almost every.single.year... and always just before Christmas, like they planned to hurt people as much as possible. Utterly despicable.

Thinking about it, I guess they hoped to make people jump ship before they were pushed, but it destroyed any semblance of a good relationship between employees and management/HR.

Re: The layoffs at Klarna

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Wow, that sounds so poorly handled. Not figuring out a way to tell everyone affected at (nearly) the same time is probably the worst sin. Best layoff I ever went through was when my boss came to our team and said, "look, don't tell anyone, but we have a layoff coming in a few days. I have to let one of the three of you go. Do you want me to decide or do you want to decide amongst yourselves?". She knew we were good f…

> Best layoff I ever went through was when my boss came to our team and said, "look, don't tell anyone, but we have a layoff coming in a few days. I have to let one of the three of you go. Do you want me to decide or do you want to decide amongst yourselves?" Judging from your reaction, it sounds like yall had a great work environment, and that this was a good way to handle the layoff for your team. It sounds like it…

What would the grounds of the lawsuit be? I can think of reasons to not announce a layoff in advance, but I can't think of why what the boss did was illegal.

Re: The layoffs at Klarna

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You're complaining that you can't shit on other people. I'm complaining that people don't shit on themselves.

It's the same problem. People are afraid to face reality, internally or externally.

The context is somewhat different on an anonymous online forum such as HN. Giving feedback as a stranger can be fraught with insufficient information. Criticism can easily spiral into negative flamefests full of assumptions of the receiving party. Thus, mods try to dampen it from getting too negative and toxic.

> So why is it any surprise that every startup company has precisely the same back-patting culture?

They are different because presumably coworkers are people you at least personally know in passing, and are not anonymous usernames.

We should be gracious to strangers but more critical to those whom we do know.

Re: The layoffs at Klarna

#187
Buy now pay later schemes are usually really terrible ideas. Companies like Klarna and Afterpay should be avoided at all costs. Often the loan repayment schedules are intentionally confusing and predatory.

Here’s a relevant You Need A Budget podcast episode for those looking for more on this topic: https://open.spotify.com/episode/0Z9NQoseq5nvutAInURR2r

Re: The layoffs at Klarna

#188
post #34

Wow, that sounds so poorly handled. Not figuring out a way to tell everyone affected at (nearly) the same time is probably the worst sin. Best layoff I ever went through was when my boss came to our team and said, "look, don't tell anyone, but we have a layoff coming in a few days. I have to let one of the three of you go. Do you want me to decide or do you want to decide amongst yourselves?". She knew we were good f…

How was that the “best layoff”? Instead of being an actual fucking leader and making a difficult decision, your boss just said “lol so who wants to leave.” I swear sometimes the shit I read here makes me go insane.

Sometimes people are planning to leave anyways, and wouldn't mind a potentially generous severance package.

Re: The layoffs at Klarna

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I actually worked providing infrastructure to tech companies; from large enterprises to startups. I think I realized starting in the early to mid 10's that all the startups I was working with were just about taking VC money to provide the founders with hip, well paying jobs - the stated goal of the company was mostly immaterial and the "change the world" talk was virtue signaling to the rank and file so they don't fe…

Story time. I was looking to buy a 911 in the past. Found one at a dealership. The car was 3 years old, just off lease, in good condition, and with no accidents shown in Carfax. I searched the VIN number in the state’s DMV car registration database. Well well. The car had an expired tag and had high thousands of dollars of unpaid taxes, fees and penalties against it. The owner had never bothered to pay any taxes and…

> I would have to pay all those when doing the car transfer at DMV.

...why are these are on the car and not on the person?

Re: The layoffs at Klarna

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I worked for a company where the C-suite used the phrase "drinking our own champagne" instead of "eating our own dog food". To me, this just oozed insecurity about the product and the company.

sure let’s replace a daily life sustaining activity with a celebratory product total disconnection and bastardization of the point of the phrase rare level of yuck here

Why did we (as an industry) go with “eat your dog food” instead of just “eat your own food”? I find the former disgusting each time I hear it.
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