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Autodesk criticised by 35 named architects (2020)

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Re: Autodesk criticised by 35 named architects (2020)

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They're not oblivious, at all. The switch to subscriptions has been a giant success for Adobe. Their stock went from hovering around 30$ for a decade from 2000 to 2011-2012, to skyrocketing every year since they introduced the subscription model (in 2011-2012), now being at roughly 450$. Anyone who doesn't think that's a giant success is living in an alternate reality.

As usual, it’s success at the cost of increased user hostility. The company doesn’t care, because increasing the stock price is the only thing that matters to them, their board, and their shareholders. But it does make the lives of users worse. Companies get locked into licensing fees, students are put under ever increasing financial pressure. It’s just another example of “only stock price matters, we don’t care if u…

Don't worry. The purchassing departament will wake up. They have targets too.

Re: Autodesk criticised by 35 named architects (2020)

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FWIW I've enjoyed using Rhino with VisualARQ for architectural work.

Funny, I almost never see Rhino mentioned in these discussions. Yeah its 999$ but comes with Grasshopper, crazy insane parametric node based drawing (and simulation, batch exporting, and python support). Plus, it’s not Autodesk (yet) which I stopped using since I tried Fusion 360; After using it once (auto run after install) I could not find the binary next time. Apparently it installed itself in non standard directo…

Rhino also has really affordable lifetime licenses. It makes it an easy decision to buy bulk for a org and dole out as needed.

Re: Autodesk criticised by 35 named architects (2020)

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The subscription model for Adobe actually makes photoshop more affordable for students than before, though. (Even if they pay more in the end)

1. Students didn’t upgrade every version. So the cost was amortized over many years. 2. The above point is moot because I, and every student I knew, used a school copy on a lab computer or… obtained a copy without paying

Photoshop CS6 is $700 ($1000 Extended), subscription is $10/month including Lightroom. So you'd need a lot of 'amortization' to make the standalone version a better choice.

I think your second point is moot personally, forcing students to break the law to obtain Photoshop is not a solution.

I don't like subscriptions personally, but most people do not care and it has definitely made Photoshop more affordable for the average person. This is reflected in Adobe' stock price.

Re: Autodesk criticised by 35 named architects (2020)

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In the discussion, no one mentioned Renga. It seems that this is one of the new solutions for BIM, with a new interesting approach to work. Now this local solution is widespread in the countries of the former USSR, but if it became an international project, Autodesk would have to think again about the development of Revit, and not just financial reports. Especially if they make the real-time collaboration functionality they promised (next year). Renga is the Figma of BIM.

Re: Autodesk criticised by 35 named architects (2020)

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Try Vectorworks. They had BIM years before Revit was a twinkle in AutoCAD's eye. Perhaps they fell behind for a few years but now but now more than viable and so much more stable code.

When was the quality turning point for Vectorworks? My wife uses it and still experiences regular crashes, though to be fair she avoids upgrading because she doesn't want to learn a new set of bugs to work around.

About 4 years ago we started noticing it really started improving. What version is she on?
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