I am always pretty concerned about a "hot mic" situation. Not because I might say something outrageous, but because perhaps I want to sing the lyric stuck in my head, or problem solve by taking to myself out loud. Managing to disconnect is already somewhat hard when you jump in and out of meetings on multiple platforms. All it takes is forgetting a button and you're broadcasting yourself by accident. As a user, that's my initial pause when seeing these kinds of things.
The Remote Pop-In (2021)
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#22> There's really no remote equivalent to the pop-in. There is one equivalent, and everyone is going to hate me suggesting it: call me. Pick up the phone and call me. Yeah, Gen Zers, I said it. Use your telephone to send me an alert that says you want to speak to me with your voice. If I have time to chat, I'll answer. If not, leave me a store-and-forward recorded offline message, aka voicemail. If I have time I'll li…
Why would you ever leave a voicemail when you can leave a text message? I think I disagree with all the advice in your comment, but this part has me particularly baffled.
I was hoping people would use it to explain what they wanted to talk about, since with Slack and SMS people just go "hey" and don't explain what they want, and speaking is easier than typing. But I guess I forgot that people on voicemail just say "hey it's X, call me back when you get this".
It would be nice if Slack had an away message that was sent back to the user when they message you, rather than a status that nobody ever reads.
Re: The Remote Pop-In (2021)
#23I am always pretty concerned about a "hot mic" situation. Not because I might say something outrageous, but because perhaps I want to sing the lyric stuck in my head, or problem solve by taking to myself out loud. Managing to disconnect is already somewhat hard when you jump in and out of meetings on multiple platforms. All it takes is forgetting a button and you're broadcasting yourself by accident. As a user, that'…
I once had a fight with my partner on a hot mic zoom call because everyone else was late by a half hour (let’s schedule a meeting after lunch, ope lunch is late) and zoom had a terrible UI. I checked many times to see if i was muted and always was… but not really.
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#24> There's really no remote equivalent to the pop-in. There is one equivalent, and everyone is going to hate me suggesting it: call me. Pick up the phone and call me. Yeah, Gen Zers, I said it. Use your telephone to send me an alert that says you want to speak to me with your voice. If I have time to chat, I'll answer. If not, leave me a store-and-forward recorded offline message, aka voicemail. If I have time I'll li…
Voicemail is the worst possible form of communication. Consider a plot of fidelity vs latency. You want to talk to somebody - high-fidelity back-and-forth communications instantly. It's up in one corner of our plot. Now consider voicemail. One-way, lots of "um, uh" wasted time, tedious menus to fetch and wade thru it, maybe tomorrow. It's down in the other corner of our plot. Literally any other form of communication…
I don’t get this at all. The UI on voicemail is easy on every phone I’ve used for a decade. Room for one fact “I called about X, it is this important” or “This is the simple piece of information I wanted to cover”
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#25I don't get it. Why people are trying to recreate the horrors of the office? Is it because of luck of human connection? In my opinion everyone who's advocating "meetings" - formal or not - is just unable to express thoughts in writing. You have to learn to communicate asynchronously and become a better writer rather than trying to recreate the dysfunctional environment that you are familiar with.
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#26> There's really no remote equivalent to the pop-in. There is one equivalent, and everyone is going to hate me suggesting it: call me. Pick up the phone and call me. Yeah, Gen Zers, I said it. Use your telephone to send me an alert that says you want to speak to me with your voice. If I have time to chat, I'll answer. If not, leave me a store-and-forward recorded offline message, aka voicemail. If I have time I'll li…
Why would you ever leave a voicemail when you can leave a text message? I think I disagree with all the advice in your comment, but this part has me particularly baffled.
Because I can convey more complex information with less effort with my voice than a phone keyboard.
Re: The Remote Pop-In (2021)
#27Earlier quoted context omitted.
Why would you ever leave a voicemail when you can leave a text message? I think I disagree with all the advice in your comment, but this part has me particularly baffled.
I was hoping people would use it to explain what they wanted to talk about, since with Slack and SMS people just go "hey" and don't explain what they want, and speaking is easier than typing. But I guess I forgot that people on voicemail just say "hey it's X, call me back when you get this". It would be nice if Slack had an away message that was sent back to the user when they message you, rather than a status that n…
> since with Slack and SMS people just go "hey" and don't explain what they want,
So you reply to that with a link to https://no-hello.com/ every time, and they eventually catch on.
Re: The Remote Pop-In (2021)
#28> If you're going to the restroom and will be AFK, you can join the restroom channel. You're in, but away. No one is actually wearing a headset on the toilet, it's just a fun way to feel like a real office. Interesting, I would never have expected anyone to feel the need of recreating this particular piece of office life in a remote setting.
Likewise, this is quite possibly the worst suggestion or best troll I’ve seen in months.
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#29I don't get it. Why people are trying to recreate the horrors of the office? Is it because of luck of human connection? In my opinion everyone who's advocating "meetings" - formal or not - is just unable to express thoughts in writing. You have to learn to communicate asynchronously and become a better writer rather than trying to recreate the dysfunctional environment that you are familiar with.
Introverts view them as horrors. Extroverts love this stuff.
I view meetings as next to worthless as nothing is retained as nobody writes anything down (and I am not willing to pay attention enough to do it as a rank and file dev who won't be blamed for it).
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#30Earlier quoted context omitted.
Why would you ever leave a voicemail when you can leave a text message? I think I disagree with all the advice in your comment, but this part has me particularly baffled.
Because I can convey more complex information with less effort with my voice than a phone keyboard.
Assuming the other person hears you clearly and assuming the other person listens to it at all.