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Re: Ask YC: Feedback on our startup/application

#11
I scanned this, was about to click-onwards, then read -

  "Instant Real-time price negotiation resulting in Instant Gratification for consumer"
I think that is the one line gotcha.. it seems an obvious thing to build a new product around.

So, maybe just lead with that ?

Can it be optimized further... "Realtime price negotiation means Instant Gratification for buyer and seller"

.. keep working it, it'll fly.

gord.

Re: Ask YC: Feedback on our startup/application

#12
My first impression of the home page was that it's way too busy. The "Use Onista To" type information should be front and center followed by search for products. The social networking stuff is cute, but not the major function (or at least shouldn't be -- I'm not looking to make friends, I just want to buy/sell something).

Agreed with the comments on you need to hit critical mass fast. I may return one more time, but if there's still a bunch of zeros next to all of the categories, I'm not coming back again. Same's true for sellers. I won't bother posting my item for sale here if nobody else is because chances are there's no buyer traffic.

Another idea might be to "lower the bar" for getting started. Yes, you need people to register to buy/sell, but you should take sellers through posting their item before you slap the registration/login form in front of them.

As a minor thing, some of the graphics are poorly executed (the Join Now graphic has a white border around it), and the HTML/coding is a little sloppy (but it was done in Dreamweaver, so that's to be expected). You can probably do better in terms of SEO if you re-structure your pages.

Re: Ask YC: Feedback on our startup/application

#13
You're presumably trying to compete with eBay, which is certainly an ambitious goal. I like that about your team: you're aiming high. The problem is that it might be too high right now. I think you need to find a niche and then expand as your customers want it.

For the average internet user, onista is probably a bit overwhelming. Hell, its even overwhelming for me and I read HackerNews! I get to the site and think eBay. Then I see social networking and think Facebook. Then I see automatic negotiations. It's not clear from your homepage how all of these are woven together to create something that benefits users. I think a lot of people will see this and say "I don't get it" and move on.

My 2c:

- Do usability testing with some normal people. Figure out what they don't get and where they get lost and make changes - Maybe simplify the homepage and make it clearer how the site benefits the users

- Who is your target audience? Consider finding a niche.

- The color scheme... while very web 2.0, you might do better with something more distinctive. I don't know who came up with the colors for HackerNews, but it's different and I've come to associate that combination of colors with this site. It has an identity. Go to the nearest bookstore and spend some time flipping through the magazines finding color schemes you like. Test a few out on onista and see what works.

Your site has a lot of potential, but you've got to get passed this initial stage for it to matter.

I keep thinking of WebVan for some reason. I'm not sure if thats good or not...

Re: Ask YC: Feedback on our startup/application

#14

There's no good explanation on the frontpage of why this is better than eBay, outside of no listing fees. You have infinitely less users and infinitely less items for sale. What's the one sentence explanation of why Onista is better? "Onista is an auction-less social marketplace where people can buy and sell products." doesn't tell me why I should care.

Thanks, I think we need to rework on wording to express the exact message out there.

Re: Ask YC: Feedback on our startup/application

#15
post #11

I scanned this, was about to click-onwards, then read - "Instant Real-time price negotiation resulting in Instant Gratification for consumer" I think that is the one line gotcha.. it seems an obvious thing to build a new product around. So, maybe just lead with that ? Can it be optimized further... "Realtime price negotiation means Instant Gratification for buyer and seller" .. keep working it, it'll fly. gord.

Thanks. Yeah, what you suggested is better wording.

Re: Ask YC: Feedback on our startup/application

#16
This post is a bit overly critical, but I'm being honest and hopefully you'll understand what I mean.

Your site design feels very dated, unprofessional and cluttered. Simple things like rollovers are wonky and nothing lines up - it's hideous. The fact that everything is done in tables stands out like a sore thumb and adds to the "this was made in 1998" effect. I'd dismiss your site straight away based on its design.

Your site is too complex and has no single "hook" as to why someone should use your site over the more popular alternatives. You need a core idea that can be summed up in a few words - the fact you needed 7 points to summarise the site is a bad omen and smells of too many half-implemented ideas. Tou need to figure out what the core problem is and what your solution is. Note most successful sites can be summed up in 2 or 3 words to potential users - "Internet Auctions", "Web E-Mail", "Search Engine", etc.

It also badly fails the "Do I have a reason to use it?" test. Basically, a good test is whether /at this moment in time/, irrespective of /any future/ growth, it's useful to people. In this case, the answer is a resounding "no" - for neither buyers or sellers who are all already on eBay and their ilk. It's a /serious/ uphill struggle for a site to take off from that point and is a major problem you need to solve before you can expect anyone to use the site - and, believe me, 'word of mouth' is not the solution.

Another problem is that the site is too big - you don't need so many categories and sub-categories when you have so few items on it so they become a real challenge for anyone using the site. Remove them until they become necessary, and link to your listings on the front page. Having an initially small site fosters community and makes it easier to use, and it's comparatively trivial to split a site into smaller parts if and when it's required.

Honestly? Today it's honestly not something I would even consider using and I can't imagine anyone wanting to use the site. If I were you I'd seriously consider shutting the site down for now, figuring out a simple hook, how you're going to make your site initially popular, and how to take on eBay (these are the huge social problems, not technical problems), and then redesigning with that in mind. Let's not forget you're trying to succeed where bigger names like Yahoo! Auctions have failed.

Re: Ask YC: Feedback on our startup/application

#17
post #10

I'm sad to bring this up. We looked into creating an innovative auction site some time ago. Unfortunately there are a lot of software patents in this area, and Priceline (and its founders) have some that you need to look into before going too crazy with this site. Unless you've done some heavy analysis here, I recommend you do so and maybe talk to an attorney. The biggest danger here is that: any auction site has to…

We did talk to attorney and I think we need to do more research to be absolutely sure

Re: Ask YC: Feedback on our startup/application

#19
post #6

You need to solve the "bootstrapping" problem. That's what locks everybody else out of the auction space. You need a critical mass. Some ideas: - Perhaps a partnership with some sort of overstock dealers? - Focus on one city at first? Hit up every pawn shop in town and offer to send an intern over to index their stuff? - Some sort of trade system where people could list stuff they want to get rid of and stuff they'd…

Great suggestions. We just came out of coding phase last week and now we are going to give our best shot to get sellers and buyers. Suggestions like these really help a lot. Thanks again.

Re: Ask YC: Feedback on our startup/application

#20
post #4

I only have time for feedback on the design of the front page. It's pretty damn good. Way better then most of the stuff I see when I'm at Y combinator. I had thoughts on the right hand column. Your order is: sign in, then use onista to... then not a member, join, then invite friends, then demo. I think the order: sign in, not a member, join, then use Onista to... makes more sense, with invite your friends only showin…

Thanks a lot for great feedback. Soon I will change the page using all your suggestions as they perfectly make sense. As far as design goes, there are only 3 of us working on this app on part-time basis and work includes design and coding.
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