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Re: I hacked my car

#71
post #50

Earlier quoted context omitted.

"most developers from Asia do not really expect or care about privacy" -> You did a casual racism there, unless you can back up your claim with non-anecdotal evidence.

He said clearly that he talks from experience. Do you want a peer-reviewed paper to back his claim?

I do if he’s going to make a generalization about an entire continent of people

Re: I hacked my car

#72

Most development at very large companies happens by hordes of people who call themselves developers but do not care about development and barely understand anything they are doing. Most coding happens by copying and pasting from Stack* and then restarting the application hundreds of times and tinkering with the code mindlessly until it happens to work. Anything besides getting the "happy path" (sic!) to work is a sec…

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Re: I hacked my car

#73
post #50

Most development at very large companies happens by hordes of people who call themselves developers but do not care about development and barely understand anything they are doing. Most coding happens by copying and pasting from Stack* and then restarting the application hundreds of times and tinkering with the code mindlessly until it happens to work. Anything besides getting the "happy path" (sic!) to work is a sec…

"most developers from Asia do not really expect or care about privacy" -> You did a casual racism there, unless you can back up your claim with non-anecdotal evidence.

I lived in Hong Kong for a short while before that handover to the PRC. Daily, constant references to race were common; stories about people based on race were common; social and economic analysis in casual conversation based on race were ordinary.

Re: I hacked my car

#74
post #68

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Continents don't have cultures (and neither do ethnicities), people do. So what is your point again?

The point is that the statement “Asians value privacy less” doesn’t talk about “Asians” as a racial group, rather, it merely observes that for whatever historical/cultural/sociological reasons, a particular group of people, whom happen to live in a certain area of the globe, might be less predisposed to raise concerns about the privacy implications of their software engineering practices. Thus the claim that the orig…

I get your point, and I should have said "you did a prejudice there" instead of "you did a casual racism", because the OP's opinion did not express systemic oppression or a belief that (in this case) 'Asians' are inferior as a whole to other ethnicities.

Thank you for giving me the opportunity to correct myself.

That said, both the original post and several comments, including this comment's parent, are equally prejudicial: attributing qualities to large groups of people based on location or ethnicity and solely relying on anecdotal evidence as opposed to controlled and peer-reviewed study.

Case in point: are there any studies to back up the claim that 'Asian' folks raised in Western countries are more privacy conscious than their 'natively raised' counterparts?

Re: I hacked my car

#75
post #50

Earlier quoted context omitted.

"most developers from Asia do not really expect or care about privacy" -> You did a casual racism there, unless you can back up your claim with non-anecdotal evidence.

I lived in Hong Kong for a short while before that handover to the PRC. Daily, constant references to race were common; stories about people based on race were common; social and economic analysis in casual conversation based on race were ordinary.

I lived in West Africa for 5 years and experienced the same, coming from locals: prejudice against each other's tribal origins and prejudice against foreigners.

But I fail to see how my and your experience are relevant to the way OP expressed himself re: 'Asian' behaviour?

Re: I hacked my car

#76
post #50

Earlier quoted context omitted.

"most developers from Asia do not really expect or care about privacy" -> You did a casual racism there, unless you can back up your claim with non-anecdotal evidence.

He said clearly that he talks from experience. Do you want a peer-reviewed paper to back his claim?

A datapoint of 1 is not really how I would characterize experience in a continent with literally thousands of large corporations.

Re: I hacked my car

#77
I worked on Infotainment for a number of years with an Automotive OEM. I’ve only ever heard insiders use the term IVI, so I’m curious if the author has some exposure to the industry.

As for gaining access to the engineering, I’m interested that it was left in. We logged everything of course, but all of our engineering tools were removed during the build process. Essentially, our engineering mode was baked out.

Re: I hacked my car

#78

I would be shocked if Hyundai wasn’t outsourcing most of its software development to the lowest bidder. Any company that believes its core business isn’t software will not pay for software developers.

I had a boss when I worked in Automotive who used to say “We’re not a car company that makes software, we’re a software company that makes cars”

Re: I hacked my car

#80
post #31

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I’m not so sure. Hyundai/KIA are entering aggressively the EV market in the west. I have an Ioniq 5 and its software, although not bug-free is incredibly nice to use. The touch screen is very responsive too. I would be shocked if they are not taking software development seriously. The car is basically software on wheels.

Agreed based on test drives. Hyundai are at the top of my EV list. Congrats on the car. Looking to pick one up inside 12 months.

Oh, so you put a deposit down a year ago? /s

They're incredibly hard to buy right now, I've been on the waiting list for months.

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