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RIAA claims you do not own your iTunes music purchases

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Re: RIAA claims you do not own your iTunes music purchases

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It seems to me that deleting the original file is hardly good enough.

I think that a secondary market for digital works is something that will just never work like it does for physical media, and that's something we just have to accept and move on with.

My biggest worry is that ReDigi is going to end up losing a lawsuit that sets a bad precedent and makes future better technologies impossible.

That said, the RIAA's ownership vs licence vs access debate is BS, and they never even stick to it.

The RIAA needs to change course soon, because unlike the book and movie industries, I can easily imagine a future without a music industry at all.

As for Amazon vs. the authors? I think they are pretty much both wrong, and I'm staying out of it.

Re: RIAA claims you do not own your iTunes music purchases

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"If ReDigi’s service can accurately prevent users from accessing songs they’ve sold to the service, then the RIAA’s rights have been legally preserved." Big if. How is ReDigi going to prevent users from downloading song backups from dropbox?

Or even just using ReDigi on a machine that isn't their main iTunes machine? It's easy enough to copy your library over and just never sync to it.

Re: RIAA claims you do not own your iTunes music purchases

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I was surprised by the following:

The Guild voices some valid concerns, including the fear that publishers might try to prominently position loss leader books in the lending library in order to drive sales of other authors — but this sort of activity is already prohibited by existing clauses and is more an issue between publisher and author than anything that involves Amazon.

Why is such strategy (using a loss leader to sell other stuff) prohibited? What is the rationale?

Re: RIAA claims you do not own your iTunes music purchases

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I was surprised by the following: The Guild voices some valid concerns, including the fear that publishers might try to prominently position loss leader books in the lending library in order to drive sales of other authors — but this sort of activity is already prohibited by existing clauses and is more an issue between publisher and author than anything that involves Amazon. Why is such strategy (using a loss leader…

this is good for overall volume, but if you're the author of the loss leader, you may get significantly less revenue

Re: RIAA claims you do not own your iTunes music purchases

#8
1. This service is ridiculous and I'm embarrassed that they raised nearly as much funding as we did for it. Who on earth didn't see this coming?

2. Deleting "the original" when it's so easy to have your own other copy somewhere doesn't do anything. How do they even begin to answer this concern?

3. How can the RIAA argue in one breath that you don't own their product, that it's just a license, and argue in court in another breath that they don't owe artists an increased royalty on licenses (vs purchases)? These guys do an awesome job of making sure everyone hates them. It's too bad that their interests are aligned with artists in some cases, because they only make it harder for reasonable people to have a leg to stand on.

Re: RIAA claims you do not own your iTunes music purchases

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"If ReDigi’s service can accurately prevent users from accessing songs they’ve sold to the service, then the RIAA’s rights have been legally preserved." Big if. How is ReDigi going to prevent users from downloading song backups from dropbox?

Good faith effort. It doesn't have to do it flawlessly.

Same thing applies to physical media. How can you guarantee that I don't have access to the music after I've sold a CD. And while you might argue that their is a difference between CD's and digital music, the RIAA doesn't see it the same way.

FTA: "the RIAA and MPAA have argued that purchasing a physical CD or DVD simply grants one a license to use the product rather than ownership of the content"

Basically, ripping a CD you own, and then selling the CD would mean your music files are technically illegal (according to the RIAA, that is, following on this logic).

So, ReDigi is extending that logic: if the physical medium isn't the key here, but rathe rather the license, and you can sell your license via selling the CD, then shouldn't you be able to do it without the CD?

At least, that's what I gather.

Re: RIAA claims you do not own your iTunes music purchases

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1. This service is ridiculous and I'm embarrassed that they raised nearly as much funding as we did for it. Who on earth didn't see this coming? 2. Deleting "the original" when it's so easy to have your own other copy somewhere doesn't do anything. How do they even begin to answer this concern? 3. How can the RIAA argue in one breath that you don't own their product, that it's just a license, and argue in court in an…

2. The same could be said of CDs and DVDs. Especially if you follow up with the license bit. Basically, if you can sell your CD licensed music, why can't you sell your other digitally licence music? If both are dealing with licenses, and you can sell one, the argument is you can sell the other.

I agree, it's ridiculous, but I think it's that way mostly because of the RIAA's way of defining things.

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