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Scientists Protest Censorship in Cosmology

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Re: Scientists Protest Censorship in Cosmology

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Considering how many speculative or opinion-based papers are available on arxiv with no problem whatsoever, the fact that arxiv rejected these particular three papers seems very...odd.

I mean, I wouldn't be surprised if whatever editors are responsible for cosmology papers are a little bit more on the stringent side compared to some other disciplines.

Re: Scientists Protest Censorship in Cosmology

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At first blush, this reminds me of the phenomena where, every time some problem with evolution comes up (a missing piece in the fossil record, say), the creationists pop up with "See! Darwin was wrong!" arxiv would be completely right to refuse those "take that, Darwin!" articles. On the other hand, maybe there are serious problems with standard cosmology, and other models besides the Big Bang are worth considering.…

This isn't comparable to evolution theory where we have mountains of evidence of other species that were predecessors of the current ones. Or where we even have evidence of evolution happening during our lifetimes (e.g. Covid). The Big Bang theory is extremely speculative. Empirical Science is about building theories based on observations. We have no observations that provide any kind of evidence that there was a big…

> The Big Bang theory is extremely speculative.

There is no other plausible explanation of the cosmic microwave background radiation.

Re: Scientists Protest Censorship in Cosmology

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To anyone in the field: How plausible is Loop Quantum Cosmology/Loop Quantum Gravity as a Big Bang alternative? It seems more reasonable to me, but this is like a blind man saying one painting looks nicer than another.

It’s not really a Big Bang “alternative” at all. It is possibly an explanation of how the early Big Bang got going.

Re: Scientists Protest Censorship in Cosmology

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Is this cranks?

LPP Fusion is run by Eric Lerner, who (based on his Wikipedia article[1]) seems to be a long-time crank who's been pushing plasma cosmology since 1991. He's using his nuclear fusion development company as a megaphone for this. (I'll let someone else try to figure out if the fusion company is legit.) [1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eric_Lerner

Maybe Lerner is to some degree cranky, but really almost all cosmologists are, too. So it is a matter of degree. If you have a print publication where every page printed has to be paid for, you are obliged to be picky about what goes on those pages. For a purely online medium, that goes out the window. Then, all you should be filtering for is relevance.

Re: Scientists Protest Censorship in Cosmology

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Or, taking the other approach, sure, you can publish it. Just not on arxiv. Arxiv's editors decide what arxiv publishes. That's what editors are supposed to do.

Yep, which is literally what the editors told them according to their own account.

And, that is the problem.

Re: Scientists Protest Censorship in Cosmology

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post #22

Earlier quoted context omitted.

This isn't comparable to evolution theory where we have mountains of evidence of other species that were predecessors of the current ones. Or where we even have evidence of evolution happening during our lifetimes (e.g. Covid). The Big Bang theory is extremely speculative. Empirical Science is about building theories based on observations. We have no observations that provide any kind of evidence that there was a big…

> The Big Bang theory is extremely speculative. There is no other plausible explanation of the cosmic microwave background radiation.

This doesn't make it less speculative. What would is to incorporate less assumptions or to prove some its assumptions with practice.

I like speculativity very much, it's just a note on it.

Re: Scientists Protest Censorship in Cosmology

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Editors of arxiv: "We aren't the place to publish insubstantial discussions. There are other places for that." Guys who wrote the paper: "But it's substantial!" Like... obviously the guys who wrote the paper think it's substantial, or they wouldn't have submitted it. The very idea of "we think it's good, so we want to publish this without anyone telling us it's not" is... silly. As a developer, this is like someone o…

Or, taking the other approach, sure, you can publish it. Just not on arxiv. Arxiv's editors decide what arxiv publishes. That's what editors are supposed to do.

bc I say so is a poor argument and you know it

Re: Scientists Protest Censorship in Cosmology

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

> The Big Bang theory is extremely speculative. There is no other plausible explanation of the cosmic microwave background radiation.

This doesn't make it less speculative. What would is to incorporate less assumptions or to prove some its assumptions with practice. I like speculativity very much, it's just a note on it.

The CMBR requires the existence of a dense, optically thick, hot state early in the universe. That's pretty much the Big Bang. There's nothing speculative about that, it follows from rather simple physics.

But anyway, give an alternative model that explains it. I'll wait.

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