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Study finds link between 'forever chemicals' in cookware and liver cancer

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Re: Study finds link between 'forever chemicals' in cookware and liver cancer

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I cook eggs on cast iron without them sticking, but it requires maintenance on the seasoning. The trick is to use some butter when cooking with eggs, and they slide right off. A quick wipe with a paper towel and the pan is clean (leaving butter residue helps keep it oiled for next time). Cast iron is a pain to clean if you burn food and the burnt pieces stick, but the investment into learning how to cook with it is w…

I find boiling the pan helps unstick stuff

Also: chainmail scrubbers are amazing. I can’t recommend them enough.

Re: Study finds link between 'forever chemicals' in cookware and liver cancer

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It set us up the DOCUMENTARY for great justice https://www.imdb.com/title/tt7689910/ Teflon is the most biologically sinister chemical. We need to hold the entire petrol-chemical industry to account. A dear friend of mine is the niece of one of the most successful board members of Shell. Shell is likely the most corrupt-environmentally-speaking companies on the globe. (history of When we went to dinner, they were sha…

Big game hunting probably helps conservation. The nature preserve picks the animals to be killed and hunters pay a lot of money.

Re: Study finds link between 'forever chemicals' in cookware and liver cancer

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The study didn’t actually find anything related to cookware. Modern Teflon in the US doesn’t expose people to PFOA/PFOS like old version did due to new regulations. The chemicals could also be entering peoples body’s through drinking water or bioaccumulation in meat or plants. You should throw away nonstick cookware from before 2013, but new nonstick cookware sold in the US does not have PFOA. I believe the EU follow…

GenX contamination in the Cape Fear river (from Chemours) has been a problem for years. There's more info on this page:

https://deq.nc.gov/news/key-issues/genx-investigation

Re: Study finds link between 'forever chemicals' in cookware and liver cancer

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The study didn’t actually find anything related to cookware. Modern Teflon in the US doesn’t expose people to PFOA/PFOS like old version did due to new regulations. The chemicals could also be entering peoples body’s through drinking water or bioaccumulation in meat or plants. You should throw away nonstick cookware from before 2013, but new nonstick cookware sold in the US does not have PFOA. I believe the EU follow…

> scraping scrambled eggs off of pans.

Wait, what are you doing to your eggs to get them stuck to the pan? Welding them?

Re: Study finds link between 'forever chemicals' in cookware and liver cancer

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Why take the risk for a minor convenience? Get stainless steel cookware and you’ll quickly learn how to avoid sticking by controlling temperature.

I wonder how behavior changes when someone sticks to stainless. Because if they use more oil, they introduce other risks. Cooking oil is bad for you.

Is this true of all oils? I thought some (e.g. olive) are much better than others (cheap seed oils). I also thought risk increases with temperature, so unless you're smoking it on medium-high heat and consuming large amounts regularly it's probably not worth worrying about given that alternatives to cooking for yourself are mostly much worse.

Could be wrong.

Re: Study finds link between 'forever chemicals' in cookware and liver cancer

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The study didn’t actually find anything related to cookware. Modern Teflon in the US doesn’t expose people to PFOA/PFOS like old version did due to new regulations. The chemicals could also be entering peoples body’s through drinking water or bioaccumulation in meat or plants. You should throw away nonstick cookware from before 2013, but new nonstick cookware sold in the US does not have PFOA. I believe the EU follow…

I cook eggs on cast iron without them sticking, but it requires maintenance on the seasoning. The trick is to use some butter when cooking with eggs, and they slide right off. A quick wipe with a paper towel and the pan is clean (leaving butter residue helps keep it oiled for next time). Cast iron is a pain to clean if you burn food and the burnt pieces stick, but the investment into learning how to cook with it is w…

We've been using carbon steel pan. Its like cast iron but much lighter (not light though). They look kinda narly, but you get used to it.

You "season" from time to time (oil high heat) but we haven't in at least 6 months and use that thing at least 6 times a week. Easy to clean too.

This article kinda give the details. (you have to dodge a modal and click "read more"...sorry)

https://www.cooksillustrated.com/equipment_reviews/1623-12-i...

Re: Study finds link between 'forever chemicals' in cookware and liver cancer

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It set us up the DOCUMENTARY for great justice https://www.imdb.com/title/tt7689910/ Teflon is the most biologically sinister chemical. We need to hold the entire petrol-chemical industry to account. A dear friend of mine is the niece of one of the most successful board members of Shell. Shell is likely the most corrupt-environmentally-speaking companies on the globe. (history of When we went to dinner, they were sha…

A relative of mine also made a career in the petro-chemical industry. He never denied climate change but the idea of environmental protection is completely alien to him

Re: Study finds link between 'forever chemicals' in cookware and liver cancer

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Life is unsafe. I suspect you would be at a much much much higher risk from not having ready access to medicine and doctors than PFAS.

Or at higher risk from having access to medicine and doctors. The overuse of medicine as the solution to everything is causing a lot of harm. A pill for every ill. In the US, it's not uncommon for people to be taking 7 different pills at once! I don't think people lived like this 100 years ago.

People died young from totally treatable Illnesses 100 years ago. Being diabetic was basically a death sentence

Re: Study finds link between 'forever chemicals' in cookware and liver cancer

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I cook eggs on cast iron without them sticking, but it requires maintenance on the seasoning. The trick is to use some butter when cooking with eggs, and they slide right off. A quick wipe with a paper towel and the pan is clean (leaving butter residue helps keep it oiled for next time). Cast iron is a pain to clean if you burn food and the burnt pieces stick, but the investment into learning how to cook with it is w…

I find boiling the pan helps unstick stuff

Just scrub with a bit of salt and a paper towel when it's still warm and rinse with a bit of cold water.
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