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The hacking of Starlink terminals has begun

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Post by o_1 »

dymk wrote: post #124
croes wrote: post #118

Earlier quoted context omitted.

So if you can get root on a PS5 or iPhone it's not a vulnerability?

The iPhone is built to be resistant to physical attacks, such as decapping chips or inserting compromised chips. It's an advertised, first class feature that simply having the iPhone shouldn't give you access to its contents or let you circumvent its security measures. This is different than a Starlink base station. Base stations aren't built to be hardened against a physical attacks, and are rather intended to be un…

How many versions of the iPhone were required to become resistant to jailbreak. SpaceX should have a leg up on the sins of the past, but its an entirely different concept / product. The security improvements are on a curve of maturity, I imagine software and platform management will mitigate this until hardware updates are released. I will say Starlink customers shouldn't have to pay exorbant upgrade costs due to security vulnerabilities in past hardware. That is an ethical boundary SpaceX must not cross.

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Post by iso1631 »

bee_rider wrote: post #134
enlyth wrote: post #125

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Isn't the literal name of this website using the same definition, as in tinkering with something?

True! To my reading, "the hacking of Starlink terminals has begun" is a little bit ominous looking, but maybe the error is on my side.

Feels a bit Yodaish

Begun, the hacking of Starlink terminals has

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Post by colinsane »

roastedpeacock wrote: post #35

This WIRED article[1] references a release of tools and information about the research on GitHub[2] however it 404s. Hope that is not being censored. [1] https://www.wired.com/story/starlink-internet-dish-hack/ [2] https://github.com/KULeuven-COSIC/Starlink-FI

archive.org only ever captured 404s for that page. i wonder if it was a typo in the article. does Starlink use TI’s SimpleLink? because there’s a very similarly-named repo doing similar fault injection here: https://github.com/KULeuven-COSIC/SimpleLink-FI

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Post by Banana699 »

enlyth wrote: post #125
bee_rider wrote: post #117

Hacking in the older "using a device in an unexpected/unsupported way," not "black-hat hacking" I guess. Typical over-dramatic Wired. Hats off to this guy, hardware hacks always impress.

Isn't the literal name of this website using the same definition, as in tinkering with something?

There is an argument to be made that if a word has a very widely-known meaning, and a very niche meaning, then the niche usage requires clarification even among the niche group that invented the niche meaning.

For example, when there is a certain word that you and your peer group use as an in-joke, you usually have to wink or smirk to invoke the joke meaning, that acts as a signal to the group to resolve the word to its group-specific meaning.

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Post by enlyth »

bee_rider wrote: post #134
enlyth wrote: post #125

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Isn't the literal name of this website using the same definition, as in tinkering with something?

True! To my reading, "the hacking of Starlink terminals has begun" is a little bit ominous looking, but maybe the error is on my side.

Yeah I can totally see what you mean, the most popular definition is the nefarious one, and news websites always try to get more clicks. Although I have given them the pass on this occasion since their use of the word is technically correct.

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Post by swanee »

14 wrote: post #45
KMnO4 wrote: post #27

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No, not without changing microprocessors. Essentially these chips are locked by setting certain flags in memory. Various flags control various peripherals, including a flag to disable read/write access to the firmware. Obviously once you disable access, it’s permanent because you don’t have access to reenable it. This side channel attack takes advantage of a flaw in the actual silicon, where branches can be skipped i…

Xbox 360 had the reset glitch hack where if you powered cycled the chip at the exact right timing you could run unsigned code. It required a small mod chip soldered to some of the smallest points on the motherboard that I have ever soldered. Different versions of the 360 worked better but most worked even if it took a minute or so before the glitched worked and booted into custom firmware. Mine worked really well and…

The newest glitch hack v3 is really cool in that it uses the 360 southbridge to do the glitching without a external mod chip.
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