Subtitle: The case for wire-heading.
Hacking the Hedonic Treadmill
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The author has a PhD in psychology, fwiw.
Of all the appeals to authority, this has to be among the weakest.
I was not highlighting the author's background to appeal to authority. I was pointing out that what OP dismissed as "coder philosophy drivel" (likely from skimming the title and nothing else) was written by someone who has nothing to do with that field.
In fact, by doing that, OP made an anti-appeal-to-authority. You seem to be interested in logical fallacies.. could you help me out and tell me if that one has a specific name?
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#93Earlier quoted context omitted.
Any interviews or talks you can recommend where she covers the important points of her work?
Dr. Huberman had her on his podcast. She dives into a lot of her work. https://hubermanlab.com/dr-anna-lembke-understanding-and-tre...
Yeah, this one was the one that made me buy her book. Huberman is a little much for me, but he does a great interview with her. He leaves a huge topic out -- wanted to examine his own workaholism -- but she's terrific.
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#95Oh yes Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness. This article kind of mixes different definitions of happiness. There’s the constitutional reference which comes from ancient greek roman philosophy and its origin is Aristotelian Happiness as “Evdemonia” in Aristotelian scripts (Eudemonia in wikipedia) which more accurately translates as having “good demons” with you, which can be interpreted as feeling content/lucky…
> Happiness as “Evdemonia” in Aristotelian scripts Since when would Aristotle have used the latin alphabet?
Much of Aristotle is evidenced in Latin translations for which the Greek is lost.
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#97Anna Lembke’s “Dopamine Nation” has a lot of interesting takes on the subject. One takeaway I got is that dopamine seeks a balance. Opting for pleasure seeking often ends up getting experienced as pain. An example of that is drug tolerance. Oddly, the reverse is also true: seeking pain can often lead to an experience of pleasure. The invigorated feeling after a cold shower, or how hard exercise leads to highs. She is…
Are exercise highs real? Do all people experience them or is it a genetic niche? I've tried a bunch of different exercise methods. Gone running, swimming, weightlifting etc and I've never experienced anything close to a high afterward. I'll be tired, sometimes I'll feel proud of breaking a personal record but there's never any physical positive sensation or euphoria to me that would resemble the "runners high" that p…
From personal experience I believe the "runner's high" is very real. It didn't happen often, but sometimes 40-60 minutes in to a long run I would enter a state of flow and euphoria. It felt like I was effortlessly gliding across the ground and would last for as long as I kept running and a short time afterward.
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#98Anna Lembke’s “Dopamine Nation” has a lot of interesting takes on the subject. One takeaway I got is that dopamine seeks a balance. Opting for pleasure seeking often ends up getting experienced as pain. An example of that is drug tolerance. Oddly, the reverse is also true: seeking pain can often lead to an experience of pleasure. The invigorated feeling after a cold shower, or how hard exercise leads to highs. She is…
Are exercise highs real? Do all people experience them or is it a genetic niche? I've tried a bunch of different exercise methods. Gone running, swimming, weightlifting etc and I've never experienced anything close to a high afterward. I'll be tired, sometimes I'll feel proud of breaking a personal record but there's never any physical positive sensation or euphoria to me that would resemble the "runners high" that p…
> Are exercise highs real? Do all people experience them or is it a genetic niche?
I think peoples descriptions of exercise highs are overblown in general. When I was training hard I'd feel pleasantly worn out afterwards and would certainly agree that I got the endorphins flowing.
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#99If you get degenerative chronic illness are you eventually just as happy as you were before it? No, we figured this out in the 70s. Why is "Hedonic Treadmill" forced into blogspam titles like these? Was there a TED Talk recently? > Variators are little modulations that keep experiences fresh So... variety ? Mind blown.
> If you get degenerative chronic illness are you eventually just as happy as you were before it? No, we figured this out in the 70s. No, but that's also not what the HT hypothesis says. The treadmill pushes you back, not forward.
False, it's a tendency to return to a stable level of happiness despite positive or negative events. This doesn't happen if you get degenerative chronic illness (and it was debunked 50 years ago).
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#100Earlier quoted context omitted.
Any interviews or talks you can recommend where she covers the important points of her work?
The podcast of Joe Rogan, episode #1708. Interesting interview, he finds some holes in her theory that she is not able to answer or can't explain. I was very excited with the book before listening, but after it I was kind of disappointed with the book.
Thank you - I’ve noticed that a lot of US pop-sci books have a significant amount of filler.
What caused your disappointment?