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Re: SOPA Hearing is Streaming Live

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Post by invalidOrTaken » Wed, Nov 16, 2011, 5:09 PM UTC

Did Mr. Ross just equate government censorship with corporate page takedowns? The difference: one is prohibited by the Constitution, one is not.

Re: SOPA Hearing is Streaming Live

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Post by delinka » Wed, Nov 16, 2011, 5:09 PM UTC

tomkinstinch wrote: post #29

davidhansen wrote: post #24

Earlier quoted context omitted.

That's not the madness of the legislative process. You'll witness the madness play out when the legislators, having given the plebes their "voice", ignore every single one of them and proceed with graduating the bill to a full vote. Which will likely pass.

If it does pass, there is still a chance (however small and expensive) that it will be ruled against in the courts. The judiciary seems like the branch least impacted by the influence of big-media.

But how many Little People (i.e. those who can't afford to pay a defense lawyer) will have to roll over and pay up before a court actually gets a chance to strike at the law? That kind of injustice should be stifled before the law ever passes. Should

Re: SOPA Hearing is Streaming Live

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Post by feralchimp » Wed, Nov 16, 2011, 5:09 PM UTC

They need to chill with drawing parallels between child porn and copyrighted movies. It's technically distinct and morally distinct. Just...no.

Re: SOPA Hearing is Streaming Live

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Post by kpozin » Wed, Nov 16, 2011, 5:09 PM UTC

tomkinstinch wrote: post #29

davidhansen wrote: post #24

Earlier quoted context omitted.

That's not the madness of the legislative process. You'll witness the madness play out when the legislators, having given the plebes their "voice", ignore every single one of them and proceed with graduating the bill to a full vote. Which will likely pass.

If it does pass, there is still a chance (however small and expensive) that it will be ruled against in the courts. The judiciary seems like the branch least impacted by the influence of big-media.

Not entirely. Cf. Citizens United v. Federal Election Commission.

Re: SOPA Hearing is Streaming Live

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Post by mdwrigh2 » Wed, Nov 16, 2011, 5:10 PM UTC

nextparadigms wrote: post #12

ypcx wrote: post #11

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It is. I believe heavyweights like Google won't let them get away with this. They have lobbyists too.

There are also heavyweights like Microsoft who are sponsoring the bill. My guess is there are still more money being invested to make this a reality than otherwise.

Do you have a source for that info? A quick Google search turns up nothing on Microsoft's stance on SOPA.

Re: SOPA Hearing is Streaming Live

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Post by [deleted] » Wed, Nov 16, 2011, 5:10 PM UTC

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Re: SOPA Hearing is Streaming Live

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Post by namidark » Wed, Nov 16, 2011, 5:10 PM UTC

Mr Rogs(Ross?) statements are ridiculous and he's not giving the female (lawyer?) a chance to respond and fully explain what he's asking -- and then he switches to CP as a defense in eliminating our free speech on the internet

Re: SOPA Hearing is Streaming Live

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Post by click170 » Wed, Nov 16, 2011, 5:10 PM UTC

chops wrote: post #39

click170 wrote: post #32

Is there a chat room we can go to discuss the stream live so we aren't increasing the signal to noise ratio here?

Freenode: #startups ? Or could always make a #sopa on freenode.

#sopa on freenode it is.

Re: SOPA Hearing is Streaming Live

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Post by feralchimp » Wed, Nov 16, 2011, 5:11 PM UTC

"This isn't to protect the big dogs in Hollywood. This is for [set builders, etc.]"

So are those guys still getting paid, or aren't they? Are movies still making money, or aren't they?

Re: SOPA Hearing is Streaming Live

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Post by angersock » Wed, Nov 16, 2011, 5:11 PM UTC

feralchimp wrote: post #35

Mr. Ross's "I think simply" folksy routine makes me want to slap a bitch.

Also the random pandering involving child pornography. THINK OF THE CHILDREN. Gah.