Arrest of suspected developer of Tornado Cash
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Re: Arrest of suspected developer of Tornado Cash
#2So a software developer is held responsible for the software. If the software is largely SaaS, then I can see the sense in that. A software developer of SaaS is also a service developer, arguably even a service operator although that depends on how the service is developed and operated.
I'm sure the judge will be thrilled to have to listen to arguments about the with the nuances of dev, ops, devops and a distributed platform such as that which executes Ethereum's smart contracts.
Re: Arrest of suspected developer of Tornado Cash
#3So a software developer is held responsible for the software. If the software is largely SaaS, then I can see the sense in that. A software developer of SaaS is also a service developer, arguably even a service operator although that depends on how the service is developed and operated. I'm sure the judge will be thrilled to have to listen to arguments about the with the nuances of dev, ops, devops and a distributed…
If you design software to do a thing and then the software is used to do that thing, it follows that you’re responsible. Whether you believe that the sanctions make sense or not is one thing, but to argue that the developer of tornado cash is not responsible for… the behaviour tornado cash… feels like a hard sell.
Re: Arrest of suspected developer of Tornado Cash
#4So a software developer is held responsible for the software. If the software is largely SaaS, then I can see the sense in that. A software developer of SaaS is also a service developer, arguably even a service operator although that depends on how the service is developed and operated. I'm sure the judge will be thrilled to have to listen to arguments about the with the nuances of dev, ops, devops and a distributed…
If you design software to do a thing and then the software is used to do that thing, it follows that you’re responsible. Whether you believe that the sanctions make sense or not is one thing, but to argue that the developer of tornado cash is not responsible for… the behaviour tornado cash… feels like a hard sell.
Do you believe that the sam applies to encypted messaging protocols which facilitate criminals and terrorists to communicate privately?
The developer of Tornado Cash is not responsible for who uses it and for which reasons, just are knife makers are not responsible for murders.
Re: Arrest of suspected developer of Tornado Cash
#5So a software developer is held responsible for the software. If the software is largely SaaS, then I can see the sense in that. A software developer of SaaS is also a service developer, arguably even a service operator although that depends on how the service is developed and operated. I'm sure the judge will be thrilled to have to listen to arguments about the with the nuances of dev, ops, devops and a distributed…
If you design software to do a thing and then the software is used to do that thing, it follows that you’re responsible. Whether you believe that the sanctions make sense or not is one thing, but to argue that the developer of tornado cash is not responsible for… the behaviour tornado cash… feels like a hard sell.
Should knife makers be held responsible if someone stabs someone? TC was designed for privacy and bad actors _also_ took advantage of that. Prosecutors basically need to prove that privacy is bad, good luck with that.
Re: Arrest of suspected developer of Tornado Cash
#6So a software developer is held responsible for the software. If the software is largely SaaS, then I can see the sense in that. A software developer of SaaS is also a service developer, arguably even a service operator although that depends on how the service is developed and operated. I'm sure the judge will be thrilled to have to listen to arguments about the with the nuances of dev, ops, devops and a distributed…
In this case, will the Tornado developer benefit from the smart contracts? I think the service charge about 0.3%, so that money mainly go to the TORN holders?
Re: Arrest of suspected developer of Tornado Cash
#7So a software developer is held responsible for the software. If the software is largely SaaS, then I can see the sense in that. A software developer of SaaS is also a service developer, arguably even a service operator although that depends on how the service is developed and operated. I'm sure the judge will be thrilled to have to listen to arguments about the with the nuances of dev, ops, devops and a distributed…
If you design software to do a thing and then the software is used to do that thing, it follows that you’re responsible. Whether you believe that the sanctions make sense or not is one thing, but to argue that the developer of tornado cash is not responsible for… the behaviour tornado cash… feels like a hard sell.
So should the authors of the anarchist cookbook or 2600 magazine be charged with crimes also?
Re: Arrest of suspected developer of Tornado Cash
#8Earlier quoted context omitted.
If you design software to do a thing and then the software is used to do that thing, it follows that you’re responsible. Whether you believe that the sanctions make sense or not is one thing, but to argue that the developer of tornado cash is not responsible for… the behaviour tornado cash… feels like a hard sell.
Should knife makers be held responsible if someone stabs someone? TC was designed for privacy and bad actors _also_ took advantage of that. Prosecutors basically need to prove that privacy is bad, good luck with that.
Have there not been quite a few bills/laws proposed recently that also advocate for privacy being bad?
Re: Arrest of suspected developer of Tornado Cash
#9So a software developer is held responsible for the software. If the software is largely SaaS, then I can see the sense in that. A software developer of SaaS is also a service developer, arguably even a service operator although that depends on how the service is developed and operated. I'm sure the judge will be thrilled to have to listen to arguments about the with the nuances of dev, ops, devops and a distributed…
It seems reasonable to expect that Ethereum operators share responsibility in case of usage of their network for malicious or criminal activity.
They have the technical means to control what goes on there or not.
Otherwise it's like if you run P2P nodes and claim pedo pictures aren't your problem.
Re: Arrest of suspected developer of Tornado Cash
#10There’s a big legal distinction whether the developers are collecting fees from operation of the service, since that’s very different from merely developing open source software. I’m curious how this develops
> It is suspected that persons behind this organisation have made large-scale profits from these transactions.