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Spent $15 in DALL·E 2 credits creating this AI image

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Re: Spent $15 in DALL·E 2 credits creating this AI image

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I'm usually very much a skeptic when it comes to "revolutionary" tech. I think the blockchain is crap. I think fully self-driving cars are still a long way away. I think that VR and the metaverse are going to remain gimmicks in the foreseeable future. But this DALL-E thing, it's really blowing my mind. That and deep fakes, now that's sci-fi tech. It's both exciting and a bit scary. The idea that in the not so far fut…

I'm in the exact same head space as you here. This is the most revolutionary thing I've seen in my entire life and I can't even begin to imagine what this is going to look like in 20 years. Looking at r/dalle2 literally blows my mind. Makes me want to give up my cushy full stack job and go all-in on ML.

Re: Spent $15 in DALL·E 2 credits creating this AI image

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Most of DALL-E2 output is great out of the box, the selection process is just fine tuning the results to create something the human in front of the computer likes. DALL-E2 can't mindread, so the image produced might not match what the human had in mind. There is however one thing to be aware of, the titles posted on /r/dalle2/ and other places are often not the prompts that DALL-E2 got. Instead they are a fun descrip…

I wouldn't at all agree that most Dall-E output is great out of the box. It has areas that it's good at and areas it's poor at. Here's a result for the prompt of "Woman with green skin, leaves instead of hair, wearing a simple dress, far shot, digital art, hyper-realistic, 8k, ultrahd," for example (all four images) https://imgur.com/a/f4d8N0u You will note that none of them are even basically fulfilling the prompt,…

It's not the whole problem, but it looks like the "digital art" bit is dominating the style in a way you maybe didn't intend.

Re: Spent $15 in DALL·E 2 credits creating this AI image

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> DALL·E 2 struggles to generate realistic faces. According to some sources, this may have been a deliberate attempt to avoid generating deepfakes.

That might be true, but after experimenting with DALL·E 2 last week (and spending more than $15), I have a different theory.

My tests focused on how well it could create art works around three common themes: still life, landscape, and portrait. For the first two categories, almost all the results were works that would not have looked out of place in a museum or art gallery. In contrast, with the prompt of “A painting of a young woman sitting in a chair” and variations, while DALL·E 2 produced convincing clothing, furniture, background, etc., the faces were mostly horrible. I started adding “from the rear” and “turned to the side” to the prompt just to get the face out of the picture.

I came to suspect that DALL·E 2 is bad at faces not because the developers made it that way but because human beings are uniquely hardwired to recognize faces. Most people are able to recognize and remember hundreds of faces, and we are very sensitive to minor changes in their configurations (i.e., facial expressions). When we look at a painting of a person sitting in a chair, we don’t care if aspects of the chair, the person’s clothing, etc. are not precisely accurate; a slight distortion of the face, however, can ruin the entire work. DALL·E 2 does not seem to have been trained to have the same sensitivity to faces that humans have.

If anyone is interested, the works that DALL·E 2 created for me are at [1]; video slideshows with musical accompaniment are at [2].

[1] http://www.gally.net/temp/dalleimages/index.html

[2] https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLj4urky_8icRPzgFS_b98...

Re: Spent $15 in DALL·E 2 credits creating this AI image

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

I wouldn't at all agree that most Dall-E output is great out of the box. It has areas that it's good at and areas it's poor at. Here's a result for the prompt of "Woman with green skin, leaves instead of hair, wearing a simple dress, far shot, digital art, hyper-realistic, 8k, ultrahd," for example (all four images) https://imgur.com/a/f4d8N0u You will note that none of them are even basically fulfilling the prompt,…

It's not the whole problem, but it looks like the "digital art" bit is dominating the style in a way you maybe didn't intend.

Here is the same prompt minus "digital art."

https://imgur.com/a/aVbSxHe

You will still note that none of them are far shots, that no depicted character actually has fully green skin, and one of the four has nothing even remotely like leaves for hair. I mean, is it better? Sure. They're less ugly, though none of them are what I'd call great results. But they also aren't really doing a basically competent job of fulfilling the prompt, much less producing a particularly striking or interesting images.

And my point is, outside of a few areas, this is what you get from Dall-E. Lots of misses, and if you're willing to put time into it and work on your results, a few hits. Don't get me wrong, I've gotten stuff from Dall-E that I think is great (I really like this "watercolor painting" for example: https://labs.openai.com/s/AQ7Wy5VHBWcLL5bJ5LbU5SuW) but I think it misrepresents Dall-E to suggest that most of the time it produces basically good images.

I'd say more like, "If you put time and attention into learning its quirks, in its best areas, it'll produce like one in ten images that are basically good."

And, I mean, on some level that's incredible. You can produce 10 images in about three minutes in Dall-E and get some great stuff. But I think people mostly see the top 10% of what Dall-E produces.

Re: Spent $15 in DALL·E 2 credits creating this AI image

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I was curious to compare results with Craiyon.ai Here is "llama in a jersey dunking a basketball like Michael Jordan, shot from below, tilted frame, 35°, Dutch angle, extreme long shot, high detail, dramatic backlighting, epic, digital art": https://imgur.com/a/7LoAtRx Here is "Llama in a jersey dunking a basketball like Michael Jordan, screenshots from the Miyazaki anime movie", much worst: https://imgur.com/a/g99G7…

Fascinating, are there any other similar products in this same category as DALL.E and Craiyon?

Not products, but Google Research already published papers about two different, better models:

https://parti.research.google/ https://imagen.research.google/

The models themselves are not public however.

Re: Spent $15 in DALL·E 2 credits creating this AI image

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It's fascinating to me that in the first image, the llama's jersey has a drawing of a llama on it. I wonder if that was in the prompt?

Hi, author here - I didn't specify that part, which is exactly why I love that image. The full prompt was "Action photo of a llama in a jersey dunking a basketball like Michael Jordan, dramatic backlighting, anime key visuals." (link to the image: https://labs.openai.com/s/5bVuPDdnv2O6xgxuleBlTZPj)

Re: Spent $15 in DALL·E 2 credits creating this AI image

#129
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"Image intentionally modified to blur and hide faces" I thought this was strange. Why hide an AI generated face?

Hi, author here - that's a great point. When I first saw those results and how inaccurate they were, I thought there was a chance it was returning me an overfitted actual input image from training. Most likely not, but they were so realistic (and I was used to just seeing llamas until this point), that I thought I'd play it safe.

Also, I came across this article which suggests that at some point users were not allowed to share images generating human faces, artificial or not: https://mixed-news.com/en/openais-dall-e-2-may-now-generate-...

Re: Spent $15 in DALL·E 2 credits creating this AI image

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I ran into this too. When I got my invite, I told a friend I would learn how to talk to DALL-E by having it make some concept art for the game he was designing. I ran through all of my free credits, and most of the first $15 bucket and never really got anything usable. Even when I re-used the exact prompts from the DALL-E Prompt Book, I didn't get anything near the level of quality and fidelity to the prompt that the…

If you're not tired of the whole affair, you should try MidJourney. It's good at different things from DALL-E, but I do feel it produces higher quality pictures on average.
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