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Re: Is this the end of social networking?

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Post by Retric »

superturkey650 wrote: post #129
NERD_ALERT wrote: post #124

Earlier quoted context omitted.

“non-rulebreaking” implies that there are rules stating that certain ideas are not allowed.

No it doesn't. The rules can be based around the effort, structure, and tone of your comments. Not the ideas expressed within them. I think the only "idea" not allowed is asking for violence and I've even seen those allowed.

Politics as a subject is strongly discraged on HN.

It isn’t about Republican, Democrat, or Libertarian ideas it’s about their red button talking points. So you can discuss say taxes or abortion as long as you don't bring politics into it or get repetitive.

What most often confuses people is you can get heavily downvoted or upvoted for expressing the same idea depending on who shows up to a given discussion about say Nuclear power, Bitcoin, etc.

Re: Is this the end of social networking?

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Post by robryan »

swatcoder wrote: post #87
dont__panic wrote: post #17

> [TikTok]'s addiction-based advertising machine is probably close to the theoretical maximum of how many advertisements one can pour down somebody’s throat. Well put. It's interesting that we pivoted in my adult lifetime from: 1. Myspace's emphasis on sharing things on your own webpage, essentially a hosted blog 2. Facebook's evolution from "hosted blog" to "friend update aggregator" to "chat client" to "friend upda…

I suspect that that what really ate up personal social networking was very simple: private group messaging finally got good enough. 15 years ago, we’d lost touch with old friends and acquaintances because there are a ton of people in our lives that mean something to us but that don’t warrant much 1-to-1 contact through phone calls or messaging. Myspace and early Facebook reinvigorated those relationships with relaxed…

Yep. I think it is useful to have a list of people you know incase you ever need to connect them, which is basically Facebook Messenger.

The blasting life updates at everyone know ever knew part of it though is just so unnatural. It was a novelty for a while but that stage is well over now. Facebook eventually got features to allow people to be more granular about updates but they have never really pushed them.

At one point I would use Skype with friends which was terrible. Discord now though is basically everything I could ever want for group messaging.

Re: Is this the end of social networking?

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Post by wincy »

throwaway5959 wrote: post #116
wincy wrote: post #81

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I recently friend requested a bunch of people I went to high school with who all thought I was a weird loser and I am very excited that I am doing much better than all of them. It’s made me like my social media feed a lot more seeing the school bully who loved ICP post about how “he’s ready to find the right girl and settle down (at 35) So I guess I use social media for the exact reason you don’t like social media. N…

Sounds like not much has changed for you since high school.

I mean nowadays I get free lunches from recruiters and at conventions instead of being on the school free lunch program but I suppose not

Re: Is this the end of social networking?

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Post by Andrex »

wincy wrote: post #81
mulmen wrote: post #32

Earlier quoted context omitted.

IMHO Social Media is a toxic mutation of the capabilities offered by the Internet and is the opposite of federated, open communication. I don't consider blogs, forums, or IRC to be "Social Media". When you add the idea of followers and audience and attention seeking (both from participants and the platform) that's when you get "Social Media". We live in the Infinite September. Scale is not conducive to valuable or fu…

I recently friend requested a bunch of people I went to high school with who all thought I was a weird loser and I am very excited that I am doing much better than all of them. It’s made me like my social media feed a lot more seeing the school bully who loved ICP post about how “he’s ready to find the right girl and settle down (at 35) So I guess I use social media for the exact reason you don’t like social media. N…

I'm not sure continuous exposure to schadenfreude is any healthier than the more depressing topics, to be honest.

Re: Is this the end of social networking?

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Post by al_be_back »

no - but the context is shifting, from Chat -> Clips -> Streams. Though it's still mainly a medium to deliver adverts.

Social networking has pretty much replaced TV & traditional press - now it too must morph.

the biggest obstacles though I think to the social network are the app stores - not necessarily their own decisions but what politics of the day may impose on the store.

Re: Is this the end of social networking?

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Post by Andrex »

pasabagi wrote: post #99
wincy wrote: post #81

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I recently friend requested a bunch of people I went to high school with who all thought I was a weird loser and I am very excited that I am doing much better than all of them. It’s made me like my social media feed a lot more seeing the school bully who loved ICP post about how “he’s ready to find the right girl and settle down (at 35) So I guess I use social media for the exact reason you don’t like social media. N…

If you come from a wealthy background, you get the really depressing version: the school bully who loved ICP posts about how they got a new job with McKinsey, the slimy moron who used to spread shit about you is the CEO of a up-and-coming startup, and the guy who was too dumb to understand how truly dumb he was is now at a senior position in a thinktank.

That's the disingenuous presupposition.

A more positive one would be those people actually got better at their skills and improved as people. I'd like to think I'm a better person than I was in high school.

But if you're constantly exposed to their social feeds, you would have the data and probably know better. :)

Re: Is this the end of social networking?

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Post by patch_cable »

fullshark wrote: post #21
dont__panic wrote: post #17

> [TikTok]'s addiction-based advertising machine is probably close to the theoretical maximum of how many advertisements one can pour down somebody’s throat. Well put. It's interesting that we pivoted in my adult lifetime from: 1. Myspace's emphasis on sharing things on your own webpage, essentially a hosted blog 2. Facebook's evolution from "hosted blog" to "friend update aggregator" to "chat client" to "friend upda…

Social media for most is your phone's contact list + a group chat. It's just not broadcast for everyone to see and as of now, an ad free experience.

I was just thinking this.

Personally I've migrated from sharing things with friends and family on Facebook/Instagram, to a few group chats where friends and family share photos, life moments, etc.

Somewhere along the line Facebook and Instagram made me feel like my personal photos and updates were competing against ads and other more engaging content in people's feeds, and I felt like I wasn't communicating with the people that I was on those platforms to communicate with in the first place.

Judging by the increase in messages I get through more private channels with casual update content, I don't feel alone.

I would be curious if others have had similar experiences.

Re: Is this the end of social networking?

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Post by robryan »

1337biz wrote: post #110
dont__panic wrote: post #17

> [TikTok]'s addiction-based advertising machine is probably close to the theoretical maximum of how many advertisements one can pour down somebody’s throat. Well put. It's interesting that we pivoted in my adult lifetime from: 1. Myspace's emphasis on sharing things on your own webpage, essentially a hosted blog 2. Facebook's evolution from "hosted blog" to "friend update aggregator" to "chat client" to "friend upda…

At least Tiktok doesn't force me to watch their stupid ads like YouTube does. I am too lazy to install adbockers on my mobile and tablet. But the force-watching of Youtube ads is one of the worst ideas in advertising.

At least they provide a premium ad free service.
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